Posted on 05/14/2021 1:24:03 PM PDT by Paul46360
🤡 Covid: 1 death is too many.
🤡Vaccine: 1 death isn't enough to be concerned about.
🤡Covid: This virus can cause severe side effects. Though rare, we must not turn a blind eye and we must take it seriously as we don't know who will be severely affected.
🤡Vaccine: Severe side effects are possible but so rare. Please don't pay attention or let anti-vaxxers scare you away from vaccinations. We don't have any way of knowing who will be affected, but it's a risk we must be willing to take for the good of society.
🤡Covid: Though you may have survived Covid with no issues, we·re unsure of any side effects that could take place in the long term or later down the road. This is serious.
🤡 Vaccine: You survived your vaccine and you're fine. Anything that happens down the road is not associated with the vaccine.
🤡Covid: Man has a heart attack after being diagnosed with Covid. Though most likely rare, we now know Covid can cause heart attacks!
🤡 Vaccine: Boy has seizures after receiving the vaccine. This is most likely a coincidence and has nothing to do with the vaccine. If it was a result of the vaccine, this is very rare. No reason to be alarmed.
🤡Covid: Man diagnosed with Bell's Palsy after being diagnosed with Covid. Family says we must take this seriously. Wear your mask and social distance and be afraid.
🤡 Vaccine: 4 people were diagnosed with Bells Palsy after receiving vaccines. While most likely a coincidence, Bell's Palsy resolves on its own, and its nothing to worry about.
🤡Covid: Believe science. Believe doctors. :honk: Vaccine: I don't really care if you have any science and those doctors must be quacks.
🤡Covid: HCQ doesn't work, even though tons of doctors are prescribing it and have had success, and even though it's a 50-year-old drug that thousands take daily with no issue. We did a rushed study and a couple of people had bad reactions. It's not safe and we must block people from using it. We don·t know long-term effects and we cannot chance it.
🤡Vaccine: Please take this extremely rushed vaccine that hasn't had time to be properly tested and please ignore any side effects and don't worry about any long-term effects. The risk is something we must take to help us get rid of this virus. But we also aren't sure if it even stops transmission so continue to wear a mask and social distance.
🤡Covid: Sorry, I don't believe posts and articles coming from that news site and I don't care if you·ve done your own unbiased research. I don't even care about your anecdotal evidence.
🤡 Vaccine: I haven't done any research on my own, but I believe what CNN and MSNBC tell me and I have my own anecdotal evidence.
Numbers are reality. Lack of numbers indicates being detached from reality.
The number of adverse events following Covid vaccination dwarfs all other records kept for vaccines in the CDC’s VAERS database. There are already 192,954 Reports of adverse events following Covid vaccinations and the CDC hasn’t even published more than 75% of the reports received.
^^ THAT ^^
Excellent...need to keep this handy.....for all of the FRVPs.
Entities with the power and capacity to collect and publish the information you claim to seek are uniformly motivated either to do the “three monkeys” routine and refrain from demanding or collecting it, or if they have it in hand, keep it heavily under wraps.
Search your feelings, palmer. You know this to be true.
The trick is exposing a private company to extended litigation, and if lucky, winning. If this occurs, most all corps will fall in line like good little vaxers.
“Don’t take it if you don’t want to. If you want to, then get it. Simple.”
You need to get out more, or pay attention more. Those of us who don’t choose to get the shot(s) have been relegated to second-class-citizen status. We are being denied the right to travel, shop, and live a normal life. Not simple
“But there are many more that are just heart attacks and other comorbidities.”
How much sense does this make, palmer?
For something to be a “comorbidity” there has to be a bad thing to, for lack of a better term, “co”-morbitate with.
Are you not admitting that the non-vaccines in question are showing clear signs of being dangerous to certain people, to the point where such people would be wise to avoid becoming non-vaccinated, or should be specifically advised by the FDA, the CDC, and their doctors not to non-vaccinate?
The “mask” appears to be dropping, palmer.
You might want to exit stage left....
That’s why the terms, “scamdemic”, “plandemic”, etc., are so true. It’s all about lying to manipulate formerly free people.
“your tagline indicates you’re a hypocrite... your actions prove you’re a liar...”
Don’t even waste your time with this 2a guy, who signed up here the same seek Operation Warp Speed was rolled out, i.e., an embedded troll. I expect he has an evening Zoom call with Fauci to report on his “success” in manipulating us.
“those who choose not to become vaccinated should be aware that they could possibly and unknowingly infect a more vulnerable person.”
That’s ridiculous. If the “more vulnerable person” has a shot (it’s not a vaccine), and/or wears a mask, then that person has taken the responsibility to make decisions regarding his own safety. If he is, or feels that he is, safe then others can live their lives freely.
That’s like a woman who takes responsibility to take birth control pills to protect herself from unwanted pregnancy. And THEN insists that all other women take birth control pills so she can be even safer from pregnancy.
i’m having fun watching them twist and turn their pretzel logic... 😁
ADE was not present in the trials for moderna or pfizer. There’s some potential ADE in VAERS, the day of vaccination or the day after. That includes fever, swelling, rashes, headache, haemorrhage, and lung issues. But there are many more that are just heart attacks and other comorbidities. Even if all the ADE-looking cases are ADE, that’s not a lot of cases, just a small fraction of the 4,000 deaths in VAERS.
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ADE can emerge months later. The person develops the antibodies promptly and then their system is overly sensitized so that if they encounter the virus or a virus MONTHS later, they become more ill from it than they would have if never vaccinated.
The majority of people who were ‘fine until he had the vaccine’ die within one or two days of vaccination.
You are constantly propping up statistics to distort the hazards being exposed worldwide.
The vaccine trials were intentionally too short to reveal the risks of ADE which typically take longer to observe, and when they emerge, the LOOK EXACTLY LIKE COVID-19. And then people like you claim it’s a Covid-19 death and not a vaccine related, avoidable, predictable, documented hazard.
I think it was Moderna who had the laughably short 2 day animal trial - gotta be quick before the ADE and other harms show up.
For example, there are just so many reports of neurological harm. So many things wrong and you’re pushing the fantasy that after 15 years of trying and failing to create a safe mRNA vaccine for other Coronaviruses, HIV and Hep C, the manufacturers ‘magically’ created one in less than a year with the genome China gave us. *eye roll*
Next do the math. With 3 million people vaccinated a day at the peak, there will be 8/1000/365*3million or 65 deaths that day and 65 the next day out of those 3 million people getting a shot. After a month (reporting is up to 2 months) there should be 100million * 8/1000/365*30 or 65,000 deaths among the vaccinated.
Next realize who they vaccinated. In Mass, at one assisted living that I know about (the rest are similar) they vaccinated everybody. Didn't matter if they were in hospice, bedridden, not eating, etc. As long as someone signed the form and there was several weeks of presure to sign the form in emails, phone calls, etc because they came through and did everyone in one day in Jan, second shot in Feb (had to sign twice).
So there were a lot of deaths after vaccination and the vast majority were coincidence. In VAERS you can read many that are obvious coincidence and some that sound suspicious and should be investigated.
Entities with the power and capacity to collect and publish the information you claim to seek are uniformly motivated either to do the “three monkeys” routine
Sure, they might not investigate. But sooner or later someone will investigate and the numbers will be updated. Not some disorganized rant on youtube, but written carefully and clearly in reports by people who show their work. Show me a written report and I'll read it.
>> Numbers are reality.
And the numbers show the SARS case & fatality dropped precipitously beginning January. The sluggish exponential vax rollout followed thereafter. And as the vax administration grew the SARS decline curtailed.
Absolutlely, I never claimed otherwise. The same people who are at greater risk of dying from COVID are the same people at greater risk from getting the vaccine. That's why I look for numbers and wrote code to see the ages of people who died. I posted the chart here a while back, but the people who died frmo vaccines were old.
And, like I said, most died coincidentally. Read the VAERS reports.
No, they do not. The rate of mortality dropped to about 1.6% over the summer way down from spring, and was still 1.4% in January. Look at the cases, then the deaths about 2 weeks later: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Maybe some graphs will help you out.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3959355/posts
I don't think that's correct. It is COVID. There are COVID deaths from breakthrough cases. The breakthrough cases have the same hospitalization and mortality as "regular" COVID cases in the unvaccinated population. IOW, the vaccine doesn't make the disease less serious. It makes it less likely to be contracted from exposure. That's what the numbers show.
The reason that COVID might be just as serious among the vaccinated is ADE. That's essentially the cytokene storm that HCQ is good at preventing. In essence the immune system gets too active whether naturally in some people or because of the alleged affect of the vaccines (also in certain people).
But people are not dying from "if they encounter the virus or a virus MONTHS later," No. That's not how infection and immune responses work. It takes many particles to overcome a reasonable immune system. Once they are infected they might or might not have excessive immune response.
LOOK EXACTLY LIKE COVID-19.
I don’t think that’s correct. It is COVID. There are COVID deaths from breakthrough cases. The breakthrough cases have the same hospitalization and mortality as “regular” COVID cases in the unvaccinated population. IOW, the vaccine doesn’t make the disease less serious. It makes it less likely to be contracted from exposure. That’s what the numbers show.
The reason that COVID might be just as serious among the vaccinated is ADE. That’s essentially the cytokene storm that HCQ is good at preventing. In essence the immune system gets too active whether naturally in some people or because of the alleged affect of the vaccines (also in certain people).
But people are not dying from “if they encounter the virus or a virus MONTHS later,” No. That’s not how infection and immune responses work. It takes many particles to overcome a reasonable immune system. Once they are infected they might or might not have excessive immune response.
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I’ll wait to see the research links you post until I believe the assertions you make. If you can make it interesting, I’ll counter with the research links I have.
You just make it up and spin it and I’m not interested in reading spin.
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