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The COVID Vaccines: At what point do adverse reactions matter?
American Thinker ^ | 05/12/2021 | Matt Rowe

Posted on 05/12/2021 7:24:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I am not an anti-vaxxer, though I am sure to be labeled as such. Feel free to lump me in with the group of "hesitant" vaxxers, however. My logic is that we simply do not have enough data about the longer-term effects of the new vaccines and their delivery methods to know if they are really safe. All indications that I have read from many experts indicate that the vaccines and delivery method are safe, but life experience tells me to see how they stand the test of time. My analysis of COVID data also leads me to the conclusion that not everyone should get the vaccine.

Tucker Carlson pointed out recently that some 3,700 people in the U.S. who have received the COVID vaccine died shortly after receiving it. He gets his data from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). He also pointed out that about an average of 100 people die each year from the flu vaccine. He added that, after receiving the COVID vaccine, there were "nearly 900 non-fatal heart attacks in people who just received the shot. Twenty-seven hundred people reported unexplained chest pain. In all, the vaccine, according to the government reporting system, appears to have contributed to at least 8,000 hospitalizations."

Just looking at deaths, this means that about 35 per million (0.0037%) COVID-vaccinated Americans will die, as opposed to less than 1 per million (0.0001%) who die from the flu vaccine. Admittedly, these numbers are both very small, but they are significantly different from each other. They indicate that a person is 53 times more likely to die from the COVID vaccine than the flu vaccine.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: adversereactions; chinavirusvaccine; covid19; fauxccine; longtermeffects; mortality; nobodycares; sideeffects; thinkstheyrevaccines; vaccines; vaers
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1 posted on 05/12/2021 7:24:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Can anyone refute this statement by the author:

Keep in mind that I am using the same "death" criteria as the U.S. government and medical institutions are using to count COVID deaths (i.e., if you test positive for COVID and die, you presumptively died from COVID).  Under that analytical framework, if you had the COVID vaccine and died soon after — for whatever reason — the vaccine killed you.  Once again, we are at the mercy of questionable data, and this is because proper data analysis is hard; very expensive; time-consuming; and subject to bias depending upon who is doing it, why, and who is paying for it.

As expected, I have not found precise data on the ages of people dying from the COVID vaccines.  Is it young people?  Middle-aged?  Elderly?  If it is young people dying — say, up to 50 years of age — then perhaps the government shouldn't be advocating vaccinations for them.  They make up only about 2.6% of COVID deaths, while 96% of COVID deaths are in people over the age of 50 (and over 50% of those deaths are people over the age of 80).

Let me add that I still believe that the number of actual COVID deaths in the U.S. is less than 100,000.  You can see some of my logic for that claim in my article "Pandemic or Syndemic: How Deadly COVID-19 Isn't."  If I am anywhere near correct, then the death rate of the vaccines is equal to 3.7% of the deaths actually resulting from COVID.

What other vaccines do we mandate with such overall poor safety margins relative to the Infection Fatality Rates of the diseases they are intended to prevent?

2 posted on 05/12/2021 7:26:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“What other vaccines do we mandate with such overall poor safety margins relative to the Infection Fatality Rates of the diseases they are intended to prevent? “

None, absolutely none. The true covid numbers do not even rise to the level of needing a vaccine, much less a mandatory vaccine, and certainly not for a mandatory experimental vaccine.

The whole world has gone bat sh!t crazy.


3 posted on 05/12/2021 7:33:26 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The COVID Vaccines: At what point do adverse reactions matter?

Doesn’t matter a bit to the pharmas as long as they continue to make money.


4 posted on 05/12/2021 7:35:55 AM PDT by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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"At what point do adverse reactions matter?

For the ones that trust Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson and Fauci, adverse reactions won't matter until they happen to them personally or an immediate family member.

For the less trusting, the adverse reactions that are already documented, or even rumored, matter.

5 posted on 05/12/2021 7:40:39 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SeekAndFind

The mRNA of Covid vaccines is specially coated.

This coating does not last because if it did, the mRNA of the vaccine would not get released.

The mRNA of the vaccine does not last, because if it did, it would not need to be coated.

I therefore believe that within a few weeks the side effect profile of a mRNA vaccine should become fully evident.

From my experience, expect tenderness in the muscle in which the vaccine was injected. For my first dose (03/25/21) this lasted two days, for my second dose (04/29/21) this tenderness lasted 80 hours.

I had some minor nerve and muscle pain after my second dose. The day after the second dose I was too weak to leave my house to go shopping. Within two days, I had my strength back.

I went to Wal-Mart yesterday - I have a bad cold today. I wore a mask when indicated.


6 posted on 05/12/2021 7:41:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Best of luck mate! Hope you don’t end up on VAERs. Cheers!


7 posted on 05/12/2021 7:54:52 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: walkingdead

“The true covid numbers....”

Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID–19)

“Part I
This section on the death certificate is for reporting the sequence of conditions that led directly to death. The immediate cause of death, which is the disease or condition that directly preceded death and is not necessarily the underlying cause of death (UCOD), should be reported on line a. The conditions that led to the immediate cause of death should be reported in a logical
sequence in terms of time and etiology below it.
The UCOD, which is “(a) the disease or injury which initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death or (b) the circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the fatal injury” (7), should be reported on the lowest line used in Part I.
Approximate interval: Onset to death
For each condition reported in Part I, the time interval between the presumed onset of the condition, not the diagnosis, and death should be reported. It is acceptable to approximate the intervals or use general terms, such as hours, days, weeks, or years.
Part II
Other significant conditions that contributed to the death, but are not a part of the sequence in Part I, should be reported in Part II. Not all conditions present at the time of death have to be reported—only those conditions that actually contributed to death.”

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Note the use of the term “logical sequence”.


8 posted on 05/12/2021 7:57:22 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

If you had it to do over, would you get it again?


9 posted on 05/12/2021 7:58:57 AM PDT by RushingWater
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To: walkingdead

My sis is a hard core lib and life time vegan, no paper towels plastic bags the whole deal.Makes her own soap eats her own dairy and poultry. She wont have a dental x-ray

She was 1st in line for this vaccine.A life time of body cleanliness and she rushes into this. I dont get it


10 posted on 05/12/2021 7:59:30 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: Bell Bouy II

My SIL and BIL who profess to be hard core conservatives both took the jab. We are still having a hard time believing it. We are also shunning them in case all this shedding theory proves correct.


11 posted on 05/12/2021 8:03:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Brian Griffin

What happened to you is irrelevant as to how it affects others. We would Need your entire medical history including age, weight, current medications, current chronic conditions, blood sugar history, full blood panel, urine test results, BMI...

That is the problem with these mRNA vaccines. There is no control group. They don’t take a full medical history of everyone they give it to. They just have you sign a release and you surrender your arm to them and you have blind faith in what they inject you with. It could kill you where the disease might not. You don’t know. You just hope these “scientists” knew what they were doing. I have to wonder how many of them have decided to hold off on the vaccine for themselves. They don’t tell you that, do they?

Did you know that the guy who invented Statin drugs refused to take them?


12 posted on 05/12/2021 8:03:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: SeekAndFind

The vaccine industry is horrible evil awful terrible and cast not away about your Health

Start with that promise and never ever ever get a shot of anything and you’ll be in good shape


13 posted on 05/12/2021 8:04:06 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! But Russian cyber hackers shut )
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To: Bell Bouy II

Sheep. Liberals. Understand?


14 posted on 05/12/2021 8:05:16 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! But Russian cyber hackers shut )
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To: SeekAndFind

how can any freeper even consider allowing themselves to be injected with the experimental jab?

there’s plenty of evidence out there of how bad it is. hell, VAERS is showing 4000+ dead and the CDC admits VAERS typically only gets 1% of the info needed. this would lead to a possible 400k+ dead due to the jab but reported under various other causes.

if i had a live chart of 10, 15, and 30 day running average deaths in the US, i would expect to see the numbers start to climb sometime around july to september (about 6-8 months after the 2nd jab). i’m basing those projections off the info dumped by the former chief science officer of pfizer, Michael Yeadon


15 posted on 05/12/2021 8:09:28 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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To: Brian Griffin
The coating is also to help the mRNA get through the cell walls.

There is experimental evidence in mice, and major concern (well hushed in public) that the mRNA crosses the blood-brain barrier.

16 posted on 05/12/2021 8:15:54 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

> We are also shunning them in case all this shedding theory proves correct.

I’m sorry, but that is just stupid.


17 posted on 05/12/2021 8:19:35 AM PDT by Qilin
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To: Bell Bouy II
My sis is a hard core lib and life time vegan, no paper towels plastic bags the whole deal.Makes her own soap eats her own dairy and poultry. She wont have a dental x-ray She was 1st in line for this vaccine.A life time of body cleanliness and she rushes into this. I dont get it

Is her name Karen?

18 posted on 05/12/2021 8:23:49 AM PDT by CedarDave (With lockdowns & mandatory business closures, New Mexico is to Texas as E. Berlin was to W. Berlin)
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To: Truthoverpower

> The vaccine industry is horrible evil awful terrible and cast not away about your Health

My sister-in-law has a PhD in Pharmacology and works at one of the big COVID-19 vaccine developers. She is quite high-level, working at the interface between science and business — exactly where you’d expect to see the sort of corruption people are worried about. Despite all this, she got vaccinated at the earliest opportunity — absolutely no hesitation. Same with her entire family.


19 posted on 05/12/2021 8:29:07 AM PDT by Qilin
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To: SeekAndFind
Tucker Carlson pointed out recently that some 3,700 people in the U.S. who have received the COVID vaccine died shortly after receiving it. He gets his data from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS). He also pointed out that about an average of 100 people die each year from the flu vaccine. He added that, after receiving the COVID vaccine, there were "nearly 900 non-fatal heart attacks in people who just received the shot. Twenty-seven hundred people reported unexplained chest pain. In all, the vaccine, according to the government reporting system, appears to have contributed to at least 8,000 hospitalizations."

The likely explanations are fairly benign: Flu vaccine deaths are undercounted because people die all the time for lots of reasons and no-one bothered to check for a connection between the death and the vaccine. Covid vaccine deaths are overcounted because we live in a Covid obsessed world and any death that can be traced to a possible Covid exposure or the vaccine is a Covid/vaccine death even if the person dies from other causes. Many people who received the Covid vaccine are in the highest risk groups for any disease (i.e., old, fat, or sedentary, with underlying health issues) and are more likely to die or have a stroke or heart attack even if they never received the Covid vaccine.

To put things in perspective, the daily death rate in the United States for all causes is .0087, which means that your chances of dying on any given day for any reason is more than twice as high as your chances of dying from the Covid vaccine.

20 posted on 05/12/2021 8:29:56 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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