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String of satellites baffles residents, bugs astronomers
Phys.org ^ | May 9, 2021 | Claudia Lauer

Posted on 05/09/2021 6:21:13 AM PDT by ETL

A string of lights that lobbed across the night sky in parts of the U.S. on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday had some people wondering if a fleet of UFOs was coming, but it had others— mostly amateur stargazers and professional astronomers— lamenting the industrialization of space.

The train of lights was actually a series of relatively low-flying satellites launched by Elon Musk's SpaceX as part of its Starlink internet service earlier this week. Callers swamped TV stations from Texas to Wisconsin reporting the lights and musing about UFOs.

An email to a spokesman for SpaceX was not returned Saturday, but astronomy experts said the number of lights in quick succession and their distance from Earth made them easily identifiable as Starlink satellites for those who are used to seeing them.

"The way you can tell they are Starlink satellites is they are like a string of pearls, these lights travelling in the same basic orbit, one right after the other," said Dr. Richard Fienberg, press officer for the American Astronomical Society.

Fienberg said the satellites that are being launched in large groups called constellations string together when they orbit, especially right after launching. The strings get smaller as time goes on.

This month, SpaceX has already launched dozens of satellites. It is all part of a plan to bridge the digital divide and bring internet access to underserved areas of the world, with SpaceX tentatively scheduled to launch another 120 satellites later in the month. Overall, the company has sent about 1,500 satellites into orbit and has asked for permission to launch thousands more.

But prior to recent years, there were maybe a few hundred satellites total orbiting Earth, mostly visible as individual lights moving across the sky, Fienberg said. The other handful of companies that are planning to or have launched the constellations have not launched recently and largely pushed them into orbit at a farther distance from Earth, he said.

Fienberg's group as well as others that represent both professional and amateur stargazers don't love the proliferation of satellites that can obscure and ruin a clear night of watching the universe. The International Astronomical Union issued a statement in July 2019 noting concern about the multiple .

"The organisation, in general, embraces the principle of a dark and radio-quiet sky as not only essential to advancing our understanding of the Universe of which we are a part, but also as a resource for all humanity and for the protection of nocturnal wildlife," the union's representatives wrote. They noted that light reflection can interfere with , but the radio-waves can also cause problems for specialized research equipment such as those that captured the first images of a black hole.

Fienberg said there is no real regulation of light pollution from satellites, but SpaceX has voluntarily worked to mitigate that by creating visors that dampen the satellites' reflection of sunlight. They've made significant progress in just two years, he said, but many hope that the satellites will some day be at such a low magnitude that they will not be visible to the naked eye even at dusk or dawn.

Fienberg noted a massive telescope being built in Chile, costing millions of dollars and a decade of planning. The telescope will capture a huge swath of the sky in the Southern hemisphere and take continual pictures to record a sort of movie that will show the universe changing. Because of its size, nearly eight meters across, the massive telescope could also lead to the discovery of dimmer objects in the , he said.

The plan is for the telescope to start recording in 2023. And with plans for thousands of satellites, Fienberg said it's hard to imagine that they won't cause issues with the data since there's no way to correct for their lights and know what amount of should be emitted from any dimmer objects behind the path of the satellites, which could also create ghost images in the data.

"We're talking with companies now and hoping to continue to make progress, and potentially by the time it goes into operation, have tools and techniques to correct for the lights and perhaps fainter satellites," Fienberg said. "We can't say this is wrong and you have to stop because the point is to provide internet access to the whole globe. It's an admirable goal, that we would support, if it didn't mean giving up something else... the night sky."


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To: mewzilla

He put an app in his cars that produces various fart sounds. Nuff said. :)


21 posted on 05/09/2021 8:04:19 AM PDT by xp38
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To: cyclotic

At least they could have done was put them up into a square formation and have them flash Eat at Joes.


22 posted on 05/09/2021 8:05:45 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: allendale

Living in a suburban area with lots of so-called “light pollution” we can only really make out 1st and 2nd magnitude stars with the naked eye. Would be nice to have something interesting to look at.

Serious astronomy will have to be moved to the lunar surface... They knew this decades before SpaceX was conceived. I think this article is just another cheap shot against Elon Musk.


23 posted on 05/09/2021 8:06:47 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: SaxxonWoods

For some reason the ET aliens rarely fly in straight lines...they must think it is racist or something...

;-)


24 posted on 05/09/2021 8:29:25 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ETL
Notice they almost bumped into that star.


25 posted on 05/09/2021 9:04:15 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Notice they almost bumped into that star.

Lol! I noticed that too. I think it's a registration mark or some such thing on the camera.

26 posted on 05/09/2021 9:05:58 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! CHINA-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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To: UnwashedPeasant




27 posted on 05/09/2021 9:15:21 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! CHINA-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

He’s the expert. Neither you or I can say the same. When I asked their value that’s what he told me


28 posted on 05/09/2021 10:18:40 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: ETL
We know what happened to the last people who went to the end of the Santa Monica Pier to wait for the mothership . . .


29 posted on 05/09/2021 12:18:31 PM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: cgbg

You know you live in the future when statements like this are actually true ...


30 posted on 05/09/2021 1:38:56 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: ETL

A few are out of formation...


31 posted on 05/09/2021 2:28:16 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: Yo-Yo

Check your link, it is (copy/paste) broken..


32 posted on 05/09/2021 2:34:59 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: ETL

Good thing the one in front didn’t slam on it’s breaks due a giant Chinese rocket motor. There would have been a pile up in orbit. Hard to get wreaking services 200 miles away from home.


33 posted on 05/09/2021 2:41:06 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: Pez149

She should have asked him quietly to come over and talk to her rather than yelling out it’s a Cookbook!

Women are so emotional.

Also great to know that the Livestock get their own individual Rooms, get to smoke Cigarettes and are fed Sandwiches wrapped in plastic wrap on their Interstellar Journey to the Slaughterhouse.


34 posted on 05/09/2021 2:43:33 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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To: Bikkuri

>>>A few are out of formation<<<

Blame Affirmative Action.


35 posted on 05/09/2021 2:45:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Don't blame me, I Voted for the guy who actually Won the 2020 Presidential Election...)
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To: Conan the Librarian
Astronomers are smart enough to plan for these things and work around them. Astro-photographers don’t seem to be able to do that.

Racist.

36 posted on 05/09/2021 2:48:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: ETL

Saw exactly that last night and the only thing I could think that it might be was SpaceX Starlink satellites. I am glad to see my guess was confirmed.


37 posted on 05/09/2021 2:56:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bikkuri

Sorry, for some reason I can’t properly format a link from my phone. The text is the correct URL, however.


38 posted on 05/09/2021 3:35:58 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Lol.. I can’t even read the text here if I’m on a “smart phone”.. :P


39 posted on 05/09/2021 3:57:23 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: Yo-Yo; Bikkuri; All
From Yo-Yo:
Times and directions you can see Starlink satellites from your location: https://findstarlink.com/

Thanks again for the link. Wish I had checked it earlier. I would have fixed it before reposting in my reply.

40 posted on 05/09/2021 4:02:58 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! CHINA-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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