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Tucker's Vaccine Skepticism
American Thinker ^ | 8 May, 2021 | Marion DS Dreyfus

Posted on 05/08/2021 4:50:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Following a program devoted to a discussion of the “other side” of vaccination, Tucker Carlson came in for a slew of slams, one of which, by Brian Stelter for CNN Business, was titled “Tucker Carlson’s Fox News colleagues call out his dangerous antivaccine rhetoric.”

Carlson’s actual program on reactions, adverse events, various complications including deaths was based on VAERS, a data reporting service.

Trending on Twitter, 7 May, was this:

VAERS and Yellow Card databases show unverified reports of COVID-19 vaccine-related side effects and deaths that can be submitted by anyone, according to the CDC and fact checkers.

VAERS, a standard for doctors and organizations seeking reliable data on adverse events, including deaths, stands for Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Even though it has been jointly used for 30 years to monitor post-licensure safety of drugs by both the CDC and the FDA, is not 100% foolproof, in that some adverse events are not reported, thus not included in their database.

All reports are “passive” to the system, neutrally submitted, and are then evaluated via a variety of methodologies and measures by the CDC and the FDA after whatever drug has hit the market. The public is cautioned on relying on the data’s predictive or retrospective reliability: You still won’t know for sure that a particular set of adverse events were “caused” by a particular market entity.

In terms of some figures that are already established, according to VAERS: There are over 4,100 dead in the U.S. from the shots, over 8,000 dead in Europe from the same vaccines, and more than 3,300 dead in Israel contiguous to the jabs in the arm. Worldwide, the data say, there are somewhere between 30,000-35,000 dead reported from the inoculations, or shortly thereafter.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: covid
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1 posted on 05/08/2021 4:50:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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"To be sure, reported deaths are always far fewer than the real numbers, as there are always unreported figures, unrecognized parallels, comorbidities, and so on."

Maybe. There are probably unreported deaths too. The long term side effects are still unknown. I hope there are none.

2 posted on 05/08/2021 4:52:52 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
The state of journalism today:

Carlson’s actual program on reactions, adverse events, various complications including deaths was based on VAERS, a data reporting service.

Reporting on data? From a reputable data reporting service?

Your anti-vaccine rhetoric will not be tolerated by CNN!!!!

3 posted on 05/08/2021 4:55:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: MtnClimber

VAERS:

4,100+ dead in the U.S.
8,000+ dead in Europe
3,300+ dead in Israel

Something does not add up. Are Israel’s vaccines MUCH more deadlier? Or either Europe’s are deadlier than the USA’s, or the USA (& Europe) have had few vaccinations compared to Israel.


4 posted on 05/08/2021 4:58:34 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: MtnClimber

Look at Stelter’s phrase: “anti-vaccine rhetoric”... as if it’s not possible to question the safety or efficacy of a brand-new untested vaccine?

Tucker interviewed a Dr. Peter McCullough yesterday, who talked about how there is still no official protocol for treating patients that already have covid-19. He said this is appalling and unprecedented in the history of medicine, that doctors would not be advised - at all - how to treat patients who have already been infected. Because of this, doctors send covid-19 patients home, telling them to call back when there symptoms get worse... this is not medicine, and it is not ethical.

One chilling phrase this doctor McCullough kept using was that “something is up” behind this wall of silence surrounding how to help patients. It’s all about the vaccine, no other discussion is allowed.

Anyway, it’s a long interview - more here:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dr-peter-mccullough-tells-tucker-carlson-today-the-world-has-gone-off-the-rails-with-treating-covid-19


5 posted on 05/08/2021 5:02:04 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: MtnClimber

“according to VAERS: There are over 4,100 dead in the U.S. from the shots”

It’s actually: 4,100 died in the US after getting the shots.

Many people that got the shots are old or have a medical problem, and they die not from the shot but because their body conks out.


6 posted on 05/08/2021 5:05:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

“One death is too many” is the wrong standard to judge a drug or vaccine by. No one seems willing to admit that there will be fatal reactions but at what point do the lives saved outweigh the cost in lives lost? Penicillin is fatal to some but has saved millions. We seem incapable of having a serious look at the cost versus benefit analysis like real adults. Almost no one is being calm and realistic. Emotions are running everything and everyone.


7 posted on 05/08/2021 5:06:30 AM PDT by Spok (There are many more things that frighten us than can cause us harm.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
VAERS is not just A data reporting service, it is THE official data reporting service for reporting any adverse reactions from getting one of the”vaccines”. When you get a vaccine, you get a paper explaining exactly how you report any adverse reaction. The CDC knows and admits that far fewer adverse reactions will be reported then will actually have happened because most people won’t take the time to report.

Dishonest media like CNN knows how to frame their narrative to make it legally not a lie but to be very misleading. They know that when people quote their carefully framed verbiage, the next will not be so careful. Soon a complete lie will be believed by leftist media consuming people.

8 posted on 05/08/2021 5:09:16 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: MtnClimber

“Brian Stelter for CNN Business” Seriously? I think not.


9 posted on 05/08/2021 5:10:13 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: FreedomVsControl

“Tucker interviewed a Dr. Peter McCullough yesterday, who talked about how there is still no official protocol for treating patients that already have covid-19.”

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/


10 posted on 05/08/2021 5:10:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FreedomVsControl

bypass fauxnews

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/PrPYieReKiMr/

Full shows of Tucker


11 posted on 05/08/2021 5:12:45 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: MtnClimber

This is a 3MB file:

https://files.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/guidelines/covid19treatmentguidelines.pdf


12 posted on 05/08/2021 5:17:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FreedomVsControl; All

Dr. McCullough is excellent (as well as being credible & credentialed).

Here is another link to an article about/interview with the good Dr. There is also another video down at the end with a Canadian doctor, Dr. Charles Hoffe, who was told to ‘shut up’ about the adverse affects of the shots that he is seeing in his patients.

https://leohohmann.com/2021/04/30/highly-cited-covid-doctor-comes-to-stunning-conclusion-govt-scrubbing-unprecedented-numbers-of-injection-related-deaths/

In addition to what you posted (”vaccine or nothing” i.e. no treatment approach), Dr. McCullough has this to say (quote from article):

“So the U.S. government has made a decision, along with the stakeholders – the CDC, NIH, FDA, Big Pharma, World Health Organization, Gates Foundation – they have made a commitment to mass vaccination as the solution to the COVID pandemic and we are really going to be witness to what’s going to happen in history. We’re sitting on, right now, the biggest number of vaccine deaths, there’s been tens of thousands of hospitalizations, all attributable to the vaccine, and going strong.”

McCullough testified before the U.S. Senate on Nov 19, 2020.

“I estimated at that time we could have saved half of the lives lost,” he told Newman. “There are now current estimates that we are up to about 85 percent of all lives lost could have been saved with something called sequenced oral multi-drug therapy.”

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Just think about that - perhaps 85 percent of those who died could have been saved if treated.


13 posted on 05/08/2021 5:18:02 AM PDT by Qiviut (2020 Election steal result: We are beginning our "40 years of wandering in the Wilderness".)
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To: MtnClimber

VAERS is part of a larger system of regulation of drugs and biologicals which are in development.

Ever wonder why every drug, in the package insert, has “nausea” or “headache” as a listed side effect?

It’s because, at every visit for an IND (Investigational New Drug) or EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) there are a list of mandatory questions that must be asked, it is mandatory for “yes” answers to be reported, and it is mandatory, after licensure, for the results of all “yes” answers to be published (as a percentage) along with the drug information.

The use of VAERS on this scale has never been attempted. Some things, like the cerebral blood clots with the anti-PF4 antibodies, even with a few cases, are obviously new and important. Other things, like heart attacks, miscarriages, even deaths have to be compared to a non-vax population of similar size and risk for those events when iccurring on a background of 202 million doses delivered (or whatever it is).


14 posted on 05/08/2021 5:18:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: Brian Griffin
Many people that got the shots are old or have a medical problem, and they die not from the shot but because their body conks out.

True.

But we should all try to be consistent.

When this thing started, a lot of bed-ridden old people in nursing homes died. You know: COVID deaths. Because it's a super deadly disease. But some people said, "They were going to die anyway. COVID is basically the flu and a lot of these deaths shouldn't be counted as COVID deaths. The numbers are inflated."

That view was unpopular with some people who believed a death with COVID was a death by COVID.

Now we have people getting vaccine shots and then dropping dead. But, I guess, many people that got the shots are old or have a medical problem, and they die not from the shot but because their body conks out.

My own bottom line: as with elctions these days, people count stuff the way they want to count stuff, and all statistics seem tainted.

15 posted on 05/08/2021 5:18:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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16 posted on 05/08/2021 5:19:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Freee-dame

“VAERS is not just A data reporting service, it is THE official data reporting service for reporting any [possible/suspected/likely] adverse reactions from getting one of the vaccines.”

The VAERS reports are leads for researchers.


17 posted on 05/08/2021 5:24:01 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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18 posted on 05/08/2021 5:25:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

In what church was that picture taken?


19 posted on 05/08/2021 5:25:40 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Brian Griffin

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapeutic-management/

Thanks - I admit, I did not know the NIH had published any guidance at all. However, reading through the NIH guidelines, it is true that if someone is judged not to be high-risk, that doctors are being advised to send the patients home with no early treatment offered.

That to me doesn’t seem ethical, especially after all these months. Especially since a substantial number of the people dying weren’t “high-risk”.


20 posted on 05/08/2021 5:28:35 AM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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