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How Much Do We Still Owe to Ernest Hemingway?
slat ^ | 4/5/21 | Laura Miller

Posted on 04/05/2021 12:01:41 PM PDT by Borges

The idea of a Ken Burns documentary on Ernest Hemingway seems both obvious and a bit absurd. Burns’ long project of celebrating the most dad-friendly pillars of American culture and history—the Civil War, baseball, jazz—makes Hemingway (after Mark Twain, covered by Burns in 2002) almost inevitable. Hemingway’s life was full of exciting adventures, and, not incidentally, he is surely the most photographed writer of the 20th century, so there’s lots of visual material to draw from. Yet after decades of dominating ideas about how a writer should live and work, Hemingway feels increasingly irrelevant today, his influence diminished to a vanishing point, his reputation corroded by a dated personal mythos. According to the Chicago Tribune, even in Hemingway’s hometown of Oak Park, Illinois, F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby alone outsells all of Hemingway’s work combined, and the Hemingway Foundation had to launch a GoFundMe campaign to keep the museum at his birthplace open.

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To: ryderann

Just curious how many people you could have met that knew Hemingway?


61 posted on 04/05/2021 12:54:28 PM PDT by Trinity5
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To: Bernard Marx

Covering WWII Hemingway was already famous so it was sometimes was a drawback on what he was able to cover. Ernie Pyle was a reporter who became famous for his coverage in WWII. So sometimes Hemingway would introduce himself to the troops as Ernie Roid, the poor soldier’s Pyle.


62 posted on 04/05/2021 12:55:05 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant.)
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To: abb

Monty preferring attacks uh... from behind. Patton knew this dude well, as a poofter. Trusted him about as much as the French.

Dry martini is one thing, but H’s fave drink was a daiquiri— n’gay?


63 posted on 04/05/2021 12:55:07 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TexasGator

Bingo! Correct... and the fidelistas knew who he was supposedly “working” for— hilarious actually.


64 posted on 04/05/2021 12:56:21 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Badger

And make all of your female characters featureless skanks.


65 posted on 04/05/2021 1:08:41 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: PJ-Comix

No disrespect to Howard Stern, but I think I’d get a second opinion in medical matters.


66 posted on 04/05/2021 1:11:50 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Bigg Red

He must have been a misogynist................


67 posted on 04/05/2021 1:12:16 PM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: GnuThere

“I’ve got this set to record. I think he led an interesting, colorful life.”

Cela va sans dire.

Cependant, Hemingway l’appelait une fête mobile.


68 posted on 04/05/2021 1:12:53 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Hemingway’s second wife, Pauline, kept the penny Hemingway threw on the ground when he returned from Europe after an affair with his next wife. In anger Hemingway said his wife had spent his last dollar on an extravagant pool in his absence. He said that this was his last penny.

It is reported that Pauline, who lived in the house until she died, would should the penny to guests and say that she was the only one of Hemingway’s wives that got a penny out of him.


69 posted on 04/05/2021 1:14:37 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know that he was a misogynist, but his females are so flat and interchangeable.


70 posted on 04/05/2021 1:17:30 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Trinity5

Fifty years ago, my husband was in a rehab facility. Several of the clients had been Hemingway’s drinking buddies. Also, we had a home on a private island in the Bahamas. Lots of the club members knew him.


71 posted on 04/05/2021 1:19:27 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: Little Ray

That penny has its own little memorial near the pool at Hemingway’s Key West house.


72 posted on 04/05/2021 1:20:04 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I keep hearing this about Ken Burns but of the documentaries I've seen of his, they all appear to be done to a high standard and free of political bias. He might be a Leftist in his personal life but I don't detect that in his documentaries.

As for Hemingway, my favorite story of his is "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber" which is about how a cuckolded cowardly man tries to win the love of his wife back with reckless bravery.

73 posted on 04/05/2021 1:21:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: Borges

It could be that after Joyce, Proust, Woolf and others went so far to the verbose and hard to follow side Hemingway was the guy who said hold on there. Now that that pendulum has swung back (perhaps in part thanks to Hemingway) his writing is less appreciated then it was at the time.


74 posted on 04/05/2021 1:25:55 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ClearCase_guy

DITTO!


75 posted on 04/05/2021 1:38:23 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World)
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To: Borges

Lived the ultimate self-indulgent lifestyle. Everything was geared to self-gratification and self-glorification. When he started losing his facilities, offed himself.


76 posted on 04/05/2021 1:39:33 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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To: Borges

I recommend Dan Simmons book about Hemmingway, The Crook Factory.


77 posted on 04/05/2021 1:42:55 PM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Borges

Joseph Conrad sneers at the mere idea that Hemingway is even a writer...
78 posted on 04/05/2021 2:08:42 PM PDT by larrytown (i like pie)
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To: PJ-Comix

So much great English literature, so little time.


79 posted on 04/05/2021 2:23:15 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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To: larrytown

Hemingway was highly influenced by Conrad.


80 posted on 04/05/2021 2:33:22 PM PDT by Borges
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