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Ivermectin: Game changer vs Covid-19? What’s the controversy?
The Manila Times ^ | 03/21/2021

Posted on 03/21/2021 6:57:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

(This is not a medical recommendation or study but a proposal that should be examined. Please consult your doctor.)

Desperation time is arriving at our door. Our infection rates are reaching all-time highs, hospitals are full, people are unnerved already and the Philippines is far behind other countries in the recovery. Most of us will survive, but many will die unnecessarily; millions of jobs are lost.

Real tests are needed, not speeches. Let’s not kid ourselves that survival is proof of resilience and innovativeness; we must improve all performance indicators, including time to adopt the best practical practices. Can we improve this reality test of our nation’s ability to anticipate, select talent, plan and execute by turning around the Covid health and economic situation quicker? When do we kick out demagogues and incompetents?

One potentially very powerful decision that is simple to execute can bypass the costs, vaccine availability and logistics issues we have (but not the pharma politics and traditional medical bureaucracy?) is the properly managed use of ivermectin.



Game changer? Worldwide cases on ivermectin have been accumulating since the middle of 2020. Many highly competent doctors and research institutions are asserting that it can massively decrease infection rates, periods, and severity, at low risk, even prior to the arrival and use of vaccines. What are the arguments for or against ivermectin use for Covid control and treatment?

The National Institute of Health (NIH) of the US in January 2021 had upgraded their recommendation on ivermectin, from “against” to “neither for nor against,” making it an option for use against Covid-19.

 


With the All-Indian Institute of Medical Sciences of Bhubaneswar, India’s Dr. Batmanabane says of his experience: “Earlier, at least 20 to 25 health care workers were getting infected with the virus daily. After the workers started taking Ivermectin, the number of infections has come down to one or two per day.” Their study indicates an over 70 percent overall improvement. While ivermectin is associated at times with some nausea or dizziness or other mild reactions, there have not been serious cases.

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) notes that of 49 ivermectin studies, all show favorable results. Patients are dying, while over a billion doses have been used since the 1980s of this “very safe drug”. “Perhaps with this change, patients won’t need a court order to get a lifesaving drug,” according to AAPS executive director Dr. Jane Orient.

The Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) also weighed in for it. “Ivermectin is one of the world’s safest, cheapest and most widely available drugs … The studies we presented to the NIH revealed high levels of statistical significance showing large magnitude benefit in transmission rates, need for hospitalization and death,” according to Dr. Kory, who was a resource for the US Senate Congress on Covid-19.

The National Center for Biotechnology Information, in its Public Health Emergency Collection, observes, “Patients… treated with a single dose of ivermectin and multiple doses of doxycycline for the treatment of Covid-19 yielded considerable improvements in symptoms and the viral response (Alam et al., 2020)

Who are against?

The Frontiers in Pharmacology magazine previewed the FLCCC papers and scheduled them for publication but withdrew at the last moment, pointing out weaknesses in the test designs or conduct. FLCCC asks why these were not raised in the preview stage, and why there were no specifics discussions with them prior to pull out.

The Infectious Diseases Society of America (https://bit.ly/3bZJkVE) took the position that the certainty of evidence of treatment of ivermectin for hospitalized and nonhospitalized patients to be low over concerns with risk of bias and imprecision.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) states that it has not approved ivermectin for use by people against Covid-19 and warns that the version and dosage for animals and people are not the same.

The Philippine FDA warns against the use of the antiparasitic drug because the “sample size is just very small, which is not really enough to conclude,” and safe use has not been established as this is used for animals.

But there is no questioning remdesivir at over $1,000 a course, whose efficacy has been directly questioned by the World Health Organization and many other institutions?

And the answers of the “pro” against the objections: The argument that the original use was veterinary, or that the purpose was for parasites, should not even be raised as cross species usefulness or utility of drugs different from the original research intent is so common it should not even be raised, although adapting studies should be prioritized. Dosage and abuse issues are true for all drugs and are easily addressed by advice rather than by not taking up the issues.

The lack of total factor control of some of the information gathering (since pharmaceuticals are not funding studies for this) are not a block to examination further, especially when many clinical studies albeit on smaller scales have already shown good consistency, across wide geographies and peoples even if each study is not on the massive scale of normal FDA studies. Also, there are the “natural observation” non-clinical case studies. It is true that not all factors were controlled, but since they are over large numbers, there are already logical bases to cross factor in or out variables to guide us in directions to take. Especially with the low risk and high benefits involved, including life and death for hundreds of thousands and falling below poverty thresholds for hundreds of millions around the world.

Almost all eventual proven drugs start with observations and case testimonials, plus there are many theoretical bases for Ivermectin to be useful. All drugs can be dangerous if abused. Like almost all proven effective herbals or remedies that are widely available and unprofitable for pharmas to do extensive tests on, this widely available drug is not a priority for pharmas or institutions.

Who has taken the jump to use it on mass scale?

Slovakia became the first country in the European Union to officially adopt Ivermectin as a treatment for Covid-19, followed by Mexico City, which makes it standard care for the largest city in the Western hemisphere.

Haiti is another. The Critical Care Alliance cites the country of Haiti having far lower, almost negligible infection rates than the US (https://bit.ly/2Qo8ViJ), possibly from mass use. In Brazil, India, Turkey, Poland and Dominican Republic, data are being studied.

Peru also jumped in. The Critical Care Alliance and Chamie, Hibberd, Scheim studies show that in 24 Peruvian states, over 30 million population, case fatality and infections dropped drastically for all except Lima, despite large increase in population physical interaction shown by Google tracked mobility. (https://bit.ly/38XVyMB).

Perhaps it is time for the Department of Health and the FDA to expedite exploration and decision on this with other nations, not necessarily follow only the safest, most approved route, to what is good for an earlier, safer Philippines and reopened economy. The Spanish inquisition had the Church on their side, but Galileo had the actual planetary motions. On this Quincentennial, Magellan reached the Philippines, and his ship was the first to circumnavigate the globe… because he didn’t listen to the majority who said his ship would fall off a cliff, meet monsters. Crowd sourcing of information and knowledge is now possible linking competent people across the world who are not necessarily running the institutions. Ivermectin or not, let’s get moving!


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: chinavirustreatment; controversy; covid; covid19; ivermectin
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1 posted on 03/21/2021 6:57:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Mrs. Don-o; tellw; Huskrrrr; Jane Long; Freedom'sWorthIt; Freedom56v2; BDParrish; Phx_RC; cba123; ..

Ping for your interest


2 posted on 03/21/2021 6:57:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

yep was identified back in like April as a possible hit in lab tests. A bunch of third world countries have used it. practically free, used in humans before to the tune of billions of doses. not really any side effects... readily available for animal use.


3 posted on 03/21/2021 7:01:25 PM PDT by orionrising
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To: SeekAndFind
The controversy exists because the vaccines are not for curing the virus, only diminishing the symptoms, which of course allows the virus to mutate in the vaxxed and become more virulent. The Ivermectin cures the virus, allows the body's mechanisms to kill the virus off in us not spread it in mutated forms.

The reason for the virus is the key. The globalist evil bastards need the virus to be more deadly, and it will work its way around to that because the vaccines do not kill it. The great reset was planned long ago and a way to bring it to pass was sought and found. The vaccines are merely helping the virus mutate in vaccinated persons and become more virulent.

4 posted on 03/21/2021 7:02:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SeekAndFind; Tennessee Conservative

Heads up


5 posted on 03/21/2021 7:05:47 PM PDT by thinden
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To: SeekAndFind

The controversy is it doesn’t put a trillion dollars into the pockets of the big-bureaucrat/big-corporate criminal complex.


6 posted on 03/21/2021 7:05:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The FBI used to go after communists. Now it is run by communists. The American Stasi.)
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To: El Cid

self-ping


7 posted on 03/21/2021 7:39:30 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The controversy is it doesn’t put a trillion dollars into the pockets of the big-bureaucrat/big-corporate criminal complex.

This!


8 posted on 03/21/2021 7:47:10 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: orionrising

I bought some last April but didn’t use it until I was exposed in December. I was then exposed again on Christmas, all day. I sat next to my gs-in-law and sat by him while we played games, I’m old and have A+ blood, supposedly making me more susceptible, and I, nor any of the other 15 people there got it, most of us had taken the Ivermectin.

My brother and SIL both got it and my SIL was in bad shape but they wouldn’t hospitalize her. It was the day after Christmas and my brother wanted me to send him HCQ and Z-pacs, I overnighted it on Saturday and knew it wasn’t going to get there in time to do any good. I called my niece and told her about the Ivermectin and told her it might be the only thing that could save her. So she ended up in the hospital the day after her first dose, She was on 5 litres of oxygen the first day and needed less each day and was home in 5 days. She is 84 and still getting stronger.


9 posted on 03/21/2021 7:54:37 PM PDT by tiki (Electiongate)
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To: MHGinTN

I think the vaccines are also pre-conditioning people mentally to be willing to take the Mark of the Beast.

And notice what the end result is physically for those who took the mark. It’s not pretty. Revelation 16:2.


10 posted on 03/21/2021 7:56:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Because these covid 19 vacs are not killing the virus, they are making it easier for the virus to mutate into stronger and more dedly strains. This very vaccine may be the start of what allows the plagues during the tribulation, more virulent strains of covid break out all over the place. Truly, m’Lady, we are ‘in the season’.


11 posted on 03/21/2021 8:01:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: tiki

RE: I bought some last April but didn’t use it until I was exposed in December.

May I ask — how did you get it from a pharmacy? Did a doctor prescribe it for you?

Do you attribute your niece’s recovery to Ivermectin?

Thanks


12 posted on 03/21/2021 8:46:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: tiki

I have HCQ in my medicine cabinet just in case. The doctor who prescribed it said he wouldn’t advise taking Ivermectin unless the HCQ doesn’t work because it can cause liver problems. Have you heard anything about liver issues?


13 posted on 03/21/2021 10:18:55 PM PDT by KittyKares (I miss President Trump!)
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To: SeekAndFind

You can get whatever you need through www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com if you can’t find a local doctor who will prescribe the hydroxychloriquine cocktail drugs.

You probably have 10-20 friends who would loan/give you enough HCQ.Any doctor will prescribe the Z-pac, antibiotics, and steroids,


14 posted on 03/21/2021 10:24:59 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://ziverdo-kit.com/product/ziverdo-kit/


15 posted on 03/21/2021 10:39:16 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: SeekAndFind

I was twice banned from Twitter for reposting an article from India promoting an over the counter treatment package for Covid that included Ivermectin. The only conclusion is that the depopulation agenda is here and we can trust nothing we are told. Do your own research.


16 posted on 03/21/2021 11:30:34 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: SeekAndFind

My 95 year old father was diagnosed with Covid 19 in December.

He had tested negative with the quick test. They put him on an antibiotic. But he tested positive with results from the longer term amplified test version (results a week later).

His doctor then called in a prescription of Ivermectin (3X per day for 3 days). He largely recovered from it in 4-5 days.

They also gave him Zinc, strong D-3 and we gave him fresh orange juice daily. (strong vitamin C)

He recovered from Covid in Early January, but he did die about 2 week ago (not from Covid). He had Pick’s disease for a number of years.


17 posted on 03/22/2021 1:56:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


18 posted on 03/22/2021 2:00:04 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: thinden

Thanks! I got another tube yesterday but saved the link for Frontline doctors in case my husband balks at the horse wormer. He doesn’t get out so if I can keep from getting it his chances of not getting it are good. My kids are all trusting the non-vaccine shots they are taking. That worries me, a lot.

I’ll say it again. If you are open to taking the Ivermectin for horses you’d better get some. Once they figure out that’s where people are getting it they will pull it for prescription only.


19 posted on 03/22/2021 3:22:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: thinden
The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) states that it has not approved ivermectin for use by people against Covid-19 and warns that the version and dosage for animals and people are not the same.

Here's my take on that. We gave it to our horses two or three times a YEAR, not a week. The prescription for humans is 3 pills a day instead of one weight measured dose of the horse paste once every other day for two days and then only once a week or just stop until the next exposure. Most Quarter horses take the whole tube at once but only once every 3-6 months tops. It's not the dosage of the paste that's so different. It's the amount of times it's taken in horses vs humans. Animals metabolize meds differently than people do. Dogs can take Benadryl but a 100 pound dog needs four at one time where four at one time might overdose a 100lb person. Ivermectin is Ivermectin. Benadryl is Benadryl. The difference is in how it's taken.

20 posted on 03/22/2021 4:15:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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