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How Fast Are Oceans Rising? The Answer May Be In Century-Old Shipping Logs
NPR ^ | March 1, 2021 | Lauren Sommer

Posted on 03/04/2021 7:43:52 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Off the coast of England, there's a tiny, wind-swept island with the remains of a lifeboat rescue station from the mid-1800s. The workers who once ran the station on Hilbre Island did something that, unbeknownst to them, has become crucial for understanding the future of a hotter climate: They recorded the tides.

The data, scrawled in long, handwritten ledgers, is just one example of the tens of thousands of pages of tidal measurements stored in archives around the world. Now, scientists and historians are racing to digitize them in an effort to understand how fast oceans are rising. The aging notebooks establish a historical baseline to compare with today's changing world.

Sea level rise is accelerating around the globe, likely to displace millions of people who live in coastal communities. Forecasts show between 3 and 6 feet of rise by the end of the century, or potentially more, depending on how much heat-trapping pollution humans emit.

Knowing exactly how much inundation to expect and how fast it's happening in each city can be tricky. Sea levels rise at different rates in different places due to the movement of the Earth's crust and ocean currents.

Long-term historical data, diligently tallied when the shipping industry was king, provide a window into these geologic processes and help improve the complex computer models scientists use to forecast the future. Those forecasts are crucial for helping cities prepare, whether it's building infrastructure to protect themselves or moving people out of harm's way.

Still, the vast majority of these historical records come from Europe and the U.S., leaving a glaring data gap in the Southern Hemisphere. That has researchers scouring archives of the Global South, including the ledgers of former colonial powers.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Science; Society; Weather; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: africa; climatechange; europe; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; icemelt; models; sealevelrise; shippinglogs; southamerica; uk; usa; waterlevelreadings
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, I’ll get right on that ! ;Þ


101 posted on 03/04/2021 10:36:18 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: cuban leaf
Actually, the oceans are not rising. If you look at the data, they are rising in some areas, dropping in others, and unchanged in still others.

First year geology class describes "emergent coasts", "submergent coasts" and "static coasts".

I always tell people who yammer on about the sea level rising in Florida to go fill their bathtub and tell me which end fills up the fastest?

102 posted on 03/04/2021 10:49:48 AM PST by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Red Badger

Guamineez more impacted by it


103 posted on 03/04/2021 11:25:24 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not an inch anywhere. You will read as an example that over in Italy the water is rising yet not in other places which you know cannot be true as water levels would be the same everywhere.
Up 1” in Italy means 1” in Florida etc.


104 posted on 03/04/2021 11:25:30 AM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That Hammock holder sure looks like muslim chit


105 posted on 03/04/2021 11:29:29 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: PJ-Comix

In 1960 they were able to call “spring break” “Easter vacation.”


106 posted on 03/04/2021 11:35:46 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ScubaDiver

“It’s amazing how little people understand about our recent geologic history.”

How can the little people understand this better than the big people? Maybe there is something wrong with your historical records.


107 posted on 03/04/2021 11:44:52 AM PST by my job (Keep silent and hide your incredible stupidity, post a Biden sign/sticker and remove all doubt.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

HAHAHA! Good one!


108 posted on 03/04/2021 11:49:30 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: metmom

The carbon we put in the atmosphere is actually causing more greening on the planet. Said extra plant life is actually having a countervailing cooling effect on land, according to one study.

I wonder if the models have factored in this effect bleeding out to the oceans and other, non-plant-covered areas of land.


109 posted on 03/04/2021 11:57:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I first remember going to the ocean in 1953. My baby sitter took me to Long Beach harbor and she paddled us out to an artificial island on a surfboard. This island was only a few feet above the water. I have visited the harbor many times since, and that island has not been submerged.


110 posted on 03/04/2021 12:51:57 PM PST by attiladhun2
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To: attiladhun2

During prehistoric times the place I live in South Carolina was underwater. The beach from that time is over an hour driving time north of me. I see no sign of us going under.

When I was a kid I used to marvel watching the short travelogs on Saturday afternoon from the 50s and 60s showing how they reclaimed Florida beach property from the ocean. It’s now of the most expensive real estate in the world. I have heard no reports of Florida sinking.


111 posted on 03/04/2021 1:04:09 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Sea level rise is accelerating around the globe" No, it's not. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/02/21/munging-the-sea-level-data/ They splicdd graphs from different sources, different data sets, and found "acceleration" that isn't there. Whenn you seperate the data sets and look at them, there is a noticable "elbow," that is NOT acceleration.
112 posted on 03/04/2021 2:03:01 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No matter what the data says they will apply “correction factors” to give them whatever answer they want.


113 posted on 03/04/2021 3:06:44 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thermopylae today:


114 posted on 03/04/2021 3:57:22 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: Robert A Cook PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
Thanks RACPE.

115 posted on 03/04/2021 5:59:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

Lady Bender and I are looking forward to ocean front property if we live long enough. We’re currently a couple of miles inland at a elevation of 150 feet or so...


116 posted on 03/04/2021 10:18:25 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Alas Babylon!

The BS is certainly rising, by at least 8ft in the ladt 50 years!


117 posted on 03/04/2021 10:38:42 PM PST by Theophilus (the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord)
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