Posted on 03/03/2021 3:03:40 AM PST by SecAmndmt
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A front-page article appeared in the FranceSoir newspaper about findings on the Nakim website regarding what some experts are calling “the high mortality caused by the vaccine.”
The paper interviews Aix-Marseille University Faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Unit’s Dr. Hervé Seligmann and engineer Haim Yativ about their research and data analysis.
They claim that Pfizer’s shot causes “mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly, when the documented mortality from coronavirus is in the vicinity of the vaccine dose, thus adding greater mortality from heart attack, stroke, etc.”
Dr Hervé Seligmann works at the Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Research Unit, Faculty of Medicine, Aix-Marseille University, Marseille, France. He is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality. He has a B. Sc. In Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written over 100 scientific publications.
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Because they will be forced to.
I’m not in an office setting. I treat people who are very sick and dying of this disease. I can’t help all docs don’t recommend the vaccine even to high risk people. I think they are wrong but they have that right. Everyone has to make their own decisions. All I can tell you is all the docs that have the most experience with this illness that I know have been vaccinated as have their eligible family members A couple of days working in an ICU are pretty convincing
Obamacare is a hot mess. Covid is real and not overblown. what is over blown is the hysterical response in both sides. Masks and lockdowns are worthless and harmful. So is breathlessly spreading false information and hysteria about vaccines.
Because they live with or are around older folks and those at high risk. Because they have seen other young healthy people die from covid. Because they work in a high risk industry. There are any number of reasons
Thing is, you do not know any more than anyone else what the long term effects are from an experimental vaccine. I prefer to wait and let others be the guinea pigs.
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Your choice. I hope it works out well for you. Everyone needs to make their own decisions
DugwayDuke wrote: ““Not one incident where it was shown the vaccine caused the death.”
MayflowerMadam wrote:
You’re right. That would involve TRIALS, which never happened.”
You must have missed the extensive testing of these vaccines involving ten’s of thousand.
Their info graphic is glaringly wrong, where they say that the UK has the second highest percentage vaccinated. That should be the UAE.
After you get through all their hyperbole, the whole thing boils down to about 3,000 raw reports out of millions of vaccinations - not established as caused by the vaccine.
Its garbage anti-vaxxer website promoting nothing but fear of the needle.
Look at their other articles, the same nonsense.
A “source” only for Q-tards
They would.
Since event Y followed event X,
there is absolutely no way event X caused Y,
and no amount of evidence can convince me otherwise.
This fallacy is called the normalcy bias...
Vaccine disaster in Israel?
Made by the Palestinians?
The vaccine does not make people immortal.
The authors assume that everyone who died after receiving the vaccine, died because of the vaccine - which is nonsense. They make no attempt to identify actual cause of death.
There is no “Skyrocket” in death rates. They are talking about hundreds of deaths among millions of vaccinated people - which is just a typical actuarial death rate. Those vaccinated were the oldest and sickest first.
Sadly, they were not all suddenly made immortal, to all other causes of death.
Could this smear be attempt to harm Netanyahu, in this month’s elections? Would the Left do something like that?
Commercial antibody tests DO NOT MEASURE the antibodies to the spike protein which is evoked by all three vaccines in current use in the USA.
This is a whole new COVID sideline - calls from vaccinated people who persuaded their PCP to order the (inevitably negative) COVID antibody test, and are calling because the vaccine “didn’t work”.
And while it is true that immunity rests in long-lived memory T cells, and it is also true that you can measure (count) a person’s TOTAL T cell numbers, it is extremely difficult, time consuming, and expensive to grow a person’s T cells in cell culture and then to test them for reactivity to any specific target.
I did T-cell transformations in a different life, and to do one patient takes a couple of weeks, minimum, assuming the assay works at all. So checking a person’s T cells for anti-SARS CoV 2 reactivity is not a feasible general use test to check millions of people.
“extensive testing of these vaccines involving ten’s of thousand.”
I guess I did miss the results of “extensive testing”. “Extensive” would include LONG-TERM effects, which could not have been done within the trial period.
What about pregnant women? The vaccine turnaround period was about nine months, as is gestation period. Dead babies = deaths.
3 Dozen Cases of Spontaneous Miscarriages, Stillbirths Occurring After COVID-19 Vaccination:
(Why a pregnant woman would get any relatively new vaccine not tested during pregnancy is beyond me.)
If people want to get the vaccine, I think it’s a good idea in the vein of “my body, my choice”. Absolutely. And those people should wear two or three masks whenever possible.
I appreciate that info. Still not sure. Hopefully I have antibodies galore and don’t need to make any decisions yet. :)
This is exactly why I will not take their vaccine. The only one I’m considering the the J&J brand when it comes out.
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Careful, Johnson and Johnson could affect your Johnson.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32156-5/fulltext
This has been the one thing I disagreed with Trump on. I will not get the vaccine, and they WILL blame him if this starts going south in a big way.
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