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New survey of vaccine-free group exposes long-term impact of vaccination policies on public health
Vaxxter.com ^ | Feb 22, 2021 | Greg Glaser and Pat O’Connell

Posted on 02/23/2021 9:37:30 AM PST by SecAmndmt

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In 2019, Joy Garner with The Control Group set out to answer that question by conducting a litigation survey of never-vaccinated people. They found that, in every case, the claims we hear from our vaunted government and TV experts about the risks and benefits of vaccines are demonstrably false.

In fact, they learned that the tiny, vaccine-free minority of Americans is far healthier overall than the vaccinated majority.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: chronicconditjon; disease; survey; vaccineinjury
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1 posted on 02/23/2021 9:37:30 AM PST by SecAmndmt
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To: SecAmndmt

The Indians weren’t vaccinated either...


2 posted on 02/23/2021 9:39:16 AM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: SecAmndmt

Sweden and Switzerland tend not to engage in wars. They remain unscathed while other nations take on the tyrants. Because of the other nations, the bad guys are swept away for a time. Everyone benefits, but only because the other nations went in harm’s way.


3 posted on 02/23/2021 9:43:42 AM PST by Migraine ( Liberalism is great (until it happens to YOU).)
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To: SecAmndmt

Hmm.
Might be survival bias.
Does that survey allow for non-vaccinated individuals that succumbed to various diseases that they were not vaccinated for?
It could be that only extraordinarily health unvaccinated individuals survived.


4 posted on 02/23/2021 9:45:28 AM PST by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: SecAmndmt

A sizable segment of the medical community answer is to take a pill.
Or, better still 15 or 20 pills.


5 posted on 02/23/2021 9:46:38 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Migraine

Did you read the paper?

Bad analogy. People who boost their own immunity naturally, eat properly, don’t let themselves get fat benefit society.

Vaccinated people who are overweight with multiple chronic conditions and multiple prescriptions are a drag on society and health care.


6 posted on 02/23/2021 9:48:13 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

This is a classic case of confusion between correlation and causation. The correlation between good health and lack of vaccination could certainly exist. However, I will posit two simple explanations, albeit with tongue in cheek:

1) Those who have thought about vaccines enough to refuse them are probably concerned about other aspects of their health. They probably take better care of themselves.

2) The population sampled are people who are alive! A large portion of those who refused vaccines are now dead and those that remain are healthy specimens. :(


7 posted on 02/23/2021 9:51:17 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: BlackAdderess

Vaccines are like people. There are good ones and bad ones.

I’m glad I got the Polio vaccine. :)


8 posted on 02/23/2021 9:54:56 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Little Ray

Sorry, the unvaccinated people who died from the avoidable diseases were not available for comment.


9 posted on 02/23/2021 9:54:59 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: SecAmndmt

A tiny vaccine free minority of a much larger vaccinated majority still has the protection of herd immunity. Without herd immunity you basically get the Indians when the explorers showed up.


10 posted on 02/23/2021 9:56:28 AM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: Little Ray

Agree. I remember once learning that one thing successful people seem to have in common is that they see business as a “game”. The argument being that the road to success is to see it as “a game”.

Fair enough. I wonder, though how many of those unsuccessful people also saw it as a game, but nobody is interviewing them because they lost the game.


11 posted on 02/23/2021 9:57:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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It's interesting to me that lefty groups that were all about saving Earth from mankind and reducing population, are now heavily into pushing vaccines on everyone.

Seems odd, no?

12 posted on 02/23/2021 9:58:57 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: cuban leaf; Darteaus94025

Yeah. They need to examine the mortality rate of unvaccinated people before coming to any conclusions from their survey.


13 posted on 02/23/2021 10:00:01 AM PST by Little Ray (The Government is always its own largest and most important Special Interest. .)
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To: polymuser

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. is a rabid Lefty environmental activist, and he is at the forefront of trying to talk people into not vaccinating their children.


14 posted on 02/23/2021 10:09:56 AM PST by BlackAdderess (IMO Congress is a symptom whereas K Street is the problem)
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To: the_Watchman

“The population sampled are people who are alive! A large portion of those who refused vaccines are now dead and those that remain are healthy specimens”

Simply not true.

We know this because 90-95% of the reduction in deaths from these common illnesses occurred before the vaccines were introduced.

I know most people responding so far have a religious attachment to vaccines, but I still recommend that you read the paper.


15 posted on 02/23/2021 10:10:25 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Little Ray

The dog that didn’t bark = if there was some massive number of unvaccinated kid deaths, the pro-vax powers that be would crow about it.


16 posted on 02/23/2021 10:13:08 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon
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To: BlackAdderess

Almost all the elected reps pushing mandatory vaxx are Democrats.

The elected reps supporting parental and personal freedom on vaccines are almost all Republicans.

RFK Jr is an outlier, politically. Rest of his family is opposed to him.


17 posted on 02/23/2021 10:13:12 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

They simply lie about it.

Then they do intellectual cartwheels in order to deny the obvious: that mass vaccinations has not been a net benefit to society


18 posted on 02/23/2021 10:16:26 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

Fascinating article. Thanks for posting.

“ And in all three studies, the same pattern emerged: the vaccinated experienced far more overall illness and dysfunction than the vaccine-free.”

Where do you go to get unvaccinated??


19 posted on 02/23/2021 10:21:15 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: SecAmndmt
We know this because 90-95% of the reduction in deaths from these common illnesses occurred before the vaccines were introduced.

I'll give you one major counterexample to your assertion: polio.

BTW: I avoid vaccines if I can. I am certainly not going to get the current round of COVID vaccines, unless I am forced.

20 posted on 02/23/2021 10:21:50 AM PST by the_Watchman
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