Lots of FUD here. Almost like Article V was inserted into the Constitution by a secret cabal of leftists. What if Donald Trump himself headed up the Convention? Would you fear mongers soil your drawers then?
Posted on 02/21/2021 1:09:03 PM PST by RandFan
Mark Meckler, the new interim CEO of Parler, currently supports a Convention of States that could give George Soros and other interests the power to rewrite the Constitution. Meckler, who was appointed as interim CEO of Parler following the removal of founder John Matze, currently runs the Convention of States Project, a supposed “grassroots” organization pushing for a convention under Article V of the Constitution.
The project describes itself as a “national effort to call a convention under Article V of the United States Constitution, restricted to proposing amendments that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit its power and jurisdiction, and impose term limits on its officials and members of Congress,” which initially sounds appealing.
However, a report by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities argued that such a restriction on an Article V convention would be impossible, with states unable to control what a convention could and could not discuss, and nobody else having clear constitutional control over the convention.
Former Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote in 1988 that “there is no way to effectively limit or muzzle the actions of a Constitutional Convention. The Convention could make its own rules and set its own agenda. Congress might try to limit the Convention to one amendment or one issue, but there is no way to assure that the Convention would obey. After a Convention is convened, it will be too late to stop the Convention if we don’t like its agenda.”
Conservative Justice Antonin Scalia echoed this sentiment in 2014. “I certainly would not want a constitutional convention,” said Scalia. “Whoa! Who knows what would come out of it?”
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalfile.com ...
and this illustrates my objection to these calls for Article V conventions to rewrite the constitution. Before we can rewrite the constitution we need to enforce the one we’ve got and that’s not happening. Not only that but how many george soros funded ‘patriots’ are going to fondle with the social contract that knits together this nation for all these years. This is NOT a good idea and it should be rejected out of hand.
“Mark Meckler, the new interim CEO of Parler, currently supports a Convention of States that could give George Soros and other interests the power to rewrite the Constitution. Meckler, who was appointed as interim CEO of Parler following the removal of founder John Matze, currently runs the Convention of States Project, a supposed “grassroots” organization pushing for a convention under Article V of the Constitution. “
I wish Mark Levin were here to tell this author how stupid he is.
Suffice it to say the author is stupid...or utterly corrupt...or both.
Goodbye Parler!
I think most people miss the issue, any amendment to the constitution either thru the Congress or Convention requires a ratification by the states and that is done under the existing rules, which means 3/4th of the states....
We still live under the existing constitution any amendments would require ratification to the existing constitution...and that means 3/4th of the states...
Really? Nice try at turning this back in me but it’s a fail. He still has his show and he hasn’t missed a day. He wasn’t distracted as he was going through chemo to discuss the inner machinations of the takedown of Parler. He took us to it and he took us through it and now he’s silent. We deserve to know if he’s no longer associated with it.
Had a feeling we’d turn on Parler any day now.....wait! Whats that noise? Oh...it ol’ George Soros laughing....
I warned many free birds to be sceptical of the trustworthiness of this organisation, But I was cold how wrong I was. Freepers today are much too obedient do what their toll.
Lots of FUD here. Almost like Article V was inserted into the Constitution by a secret cabal of leftists. What if Donald Trump himself headed up the Convention? Would you fear mongers soil your drawers then?
The communists have been licking their chops for several years over the idea of the convention and the endless opportunities they would have to expand or solidify their power...
Certainly the first & second amendments would have little chance of survival...
If the serfs are not smart enough to control the integrity of a national election, what evidence is there that something as easy to manipulate as a constitutional convention would be honest and in the best interests of freedom & liberty...
Absolutely none, IMHO...
Good point
Aw jeez, not this $&@& again. We NEED an article 5 convention to put government in check and assert states rights. A convention doesn’t give Soros or anyone else any special opportunity. Soros would just as soon push his changes through Congress where he only needs 2/3rds of the states. An article 5 convention will push state interests that the federal government resists and those changes require agreement of 3/4ths of states.
Soros wants more centralized government he can influence not the less centralized power that a states convention will generate.
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I was on Parler for 2 weeks. Didn’t see any interesting groups or discussions, just GOP talking points and meme’s. Not interested at all in them.
Why would you expect the Chief Justice to preside over the impeachment trial of a private citizen? The CJ only presided over impeachment trials of Presidents. The presiding officer for any impeachment not involving a President would be the presiding officer of the Senate, namely the Vice President. The real question is where was Harris during this sham trial; it actually was her duty as president of the Senate to preside over that trial. The true reason for having the CJ preside at all is to avoid a conflict of interest that could deny an impeached POTUS a fair trial. Having the person who would replace the President if found guilty act as judge during the trial certainly presents an obvious conflict of interest, especially given that under the original system for Presidential elections, it would be very likely that the POTUS and VP would be rivals (originally the VP was whoever finished second in the EV count).
BTW, there is no language in the Constitution preventing impeachment of anyone. The sole power of impeachment is given by Article I to the House of Representatives. The House can determine who can be impeached and for what reasons. In fact the House did impeach the President- Trump still was President when he was impeached. The impeachment was ridiculous on its merits - there certainly was no incitement to insurrection, riot or anything else. It was, however constitutional.
A complete lie, the same tired argument the John Birch Society uses. This simply allows input from anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’ll make it to the amendment. It’s almost impossible to get any amendment to be signed by 3/4 of the states.
If a COS was the preferred route of the all-powerful Soros, why have the states taken so long to apply for Meckler’s amendments?. Why haven’t we had a COS?
Even better, since there are hundreds of congressionally unanswered applications sitting in DC, why doesn’t Soros demand congress call a COS NOW?
The article is JBS-quality silliness but it will be quoted and linked until the Left grinds patriots into atoms. Then it will be too late.
Elections no longer equal self-government.
Article V = self-government.
Thank you for posting your usual pedantic boilerplate — much needed sanity.
What the JBS fears is what I’ve predicted at FR: The first COS would meet and propose nothing. It would put to rest the JBS boogieman of a runaway convention.
<>The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.<>
IOW, the COS did not runaway.
Thank you. There’s a lot of wacky misinformation that gets posted on these Article V convention threads. In reality, the amendments arising from such a convention are no different from ones proposed by Congress. It’s part of the Constitution, not some radical method for overturning and destroying it.
The real reason for the A5 convention method for proposing amendments is sound. If you look at the ratification process, it involves none of the three branches of the Federal government — ratification is done by the states, either by the legislature or special ratifying conventions. Proposing amendments is a different story. Without the A5 convention method, the only way to propose amendments would be via Congress. The Founders realized that there might come a time where we might need to limit the power of Congress by amending the Constitution. For example, we might want to propose amendments limiting the number of terms that members of the House and Senate can serve. Congress would be unlikely to propose an amendment such as this limiting its own power. The Article V convention gives an alternate method to propose amendments that Congress would not willingly propose.
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