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1 posted on 01/17/2021 12:32:38 PM PST by nagant
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Public opinion will decide which reasons are valid and which reasons are not. Choosing the certified electors in 2021 precludes the left’s 2025 argument that their selection of alternate electors is justified by Pence’s selection of alternate electors in 2021. In 2025 we need to remember what was purchased in 2021.

The left is not constrained by any thoughts of maintaining consistency with what they've said / done in the past. Never.

2 posted on 01/17/2021 12:35:48 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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The Constitution doesn’t allow for moral judgements in deciding which elector slates to open

All Pence had to do was to return questionable slates of ballots back to the states for a reconciliation (PA had 200,000 more votes than registered voters as an example). Had he done that, the scene at the Capitol would have been avoided. If our constitution is a roadmap to hell, I suggest we get off the road immediately.

4 posted on 01/17/2021 12:40:06 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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When the democrats say “by any means necessary” they mean it.


5 posted on 01/17/2021 12:42:03 PM PST by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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Democrats murdered Uncle Sam during the night of November 3rd 2020. Since then it’s been every man for himself and let the devil take the hindmost.


6 posted on 01/17/2021 12:45:22 PM PST by Knocker (Tell the truth and run like hell)
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Attempting to comprehensively reconstruct the evidence from all of the thefts would be a virtually insurmountable task for which nobody was adequately equipped.

Plenty of evidence was presented to many more than three wise monkeys whgo didn't want to see or hear it

12 posted on 01/17/2021 1:04:32 PM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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Because of the theft and we were not able to contest the outcome we will never win a Presidential race again or statewide race...


14 posted on 01/17/2021 1:10:15 PM PST by tallyhoe
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Purchased? Oh, did they spend their 30 pieces of silver?


16 posted on 01/17/2021 1:17:40 PM PST by cdcdawg (Tailgunner Joe did nothing wrong. Until conservatives accept why he was demonized, we will not win. )
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To: nagant; All

REVIEW THE GEORGIA SENATE ELECTION RESULTS
Throughout this time what really bothers me is this where The loss of the majority in the Senate should also be a chief concern to conservatives;
There were a series of fraudulent voting charges here. Were they enforced and corrected before this election took place ? If they weren’t is not a review called for ?
Assign prosecutors to personally canvass and investigate. Check if military actually voted by asking them. Identify all voters by checking on legal age their residency and citizenship. If found they do not qualify charge Illegals including state visitors known as snowbirds also include any technical computer fraudulent Italian programming testimony when presenting to the court and get these election results tossed. Try and get it done SAP before the 20th


17 posted on 01/17/2021 1:18:03 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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IMHO, the sackcloth and ashes routine is unwarranted. Trump will get to finish the job that Bannon got him to start - fire all the GOP incumbents opposed to the Trump agenda during the primary process. He’ll then have people who owe him when he returns to the White House in 2024.

You may think this is far-fetched and whistling past the graveyard. But there are solid historical reasons for optimism. Let’s assume the Democrats’ basic premise is true, i.e. that Trump lost fair and square. Trump’s loss wasn’t terrible - a couple of hundred thousand votes short in the swing states that decide the White House race. This is in the face of two outlier events - a mass casualty pandemic and the resultant economic depression representing the worst downturn since the Great Depression.

The Democrats expected a complete sweep of the states, both at the White House and Congressional levels. FDR got a 413 electoral vote victory margin. Biden’s was 74. The 1932 House elections gave the Democrats a 196-seat margin, vs the ~12-seat margin they got in 2020. The 1932 Senate elections moved the Democrats to a 22-seat margin, vs the 1-seat margin (thanks to the VP tie breaker vote) they just got after the 2021 GA runoffs. This was a blue wave a toddler could safely paddle in, not a tsunami.

If you accept the Democratic premise that Trump lost by 7m votes, that’s a Biden popular vote margin of 4%. FDR’s victory margin over Hoover? 28%.

That’s why they’re trying to prevent Trump from running again. He’s no Herbert Hoover, whose political career was over the day the results came in. The Dems aren’t afraid Trump will get the 2024 GOP nomination and lose in the general. They’re worried that one hiccup or other before 2024 will send Trump back to the White House with commanding GOP majorities, but this time cleansed of the never-Trumpers who gave him so much trouble in his first term.

If Trump intends to run again, the interval from now until presidential season should* involve the installation of Republicans who support the Trump agenda in the midterms, and the removal of those who don’t. Bannon’s quest to populate elected offices with Trump supporters needs to resume, so that when Trump re-enters the White House, his agenda is ready to go from Day 1.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections

You could also compare the numbers to those from the Spanish Flu election of 1920. Something similar happened, except this time, the incumbent Democrats lost big, with the GOP getting a 2/3 majority in the House. They would probably have gotten the same thing in the Senate, if every seat was up for grabs, rather than just 1/3. Point being that the pollsters were presumably modeling their blue wave poll results on 1920 and 1932, which were disastrous for the incumbents and resulted in ~300 and up electoral vote victory margins (i.e. winner - loser EV’s). Now that was a mandate. Whereas Biden had a ~70 EV margin, based on 1-2% popular vote margins in the swing states being litigated over. He’s skating on very thin ice.

* The big question is obviously whether Trump will run. Given what we’ve seen of Trump’s decision-making process, maybe he himself doesn’t know the answer.

The thing about such a comeback is that it’s so rare, it would be another superlative to add to his record - a real feather in his cap. Health permitting, I don’t see him not running. Fred Trump only began displaying signs of dementia at age 86, dying at age 93, so it would not surprise me if the Donald were physically up to the challenges of another term in the White House.


18 posted on 01/17/2021 1:23:25 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: nagant

Public opinion will decide which reasons are valid...

The courts should have decided but they were bought an paid for but not by the publicans.


19 posted on 01/17/2021 1:37:13 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Biden is going to legalize the illegals (they’re admitting to 11 million, but there are likely at least 30-40 million). Soon afterwards, they’re going to be made into citi go 85% of those 18 or over who vote, will vote Democrat. Turnout there will be heavy, and reinforced with cash from all of us and our grandchildren’s future earnings. They will be incentivized to move to purple states, moving them to the Dem column.

Future elections won’t matter, even without cheating - and that won’t be diminishing except in the world we inhabit when we sleep.


20 posted on 01/17/2021 1:46:22 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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The Soros SOS project was run under the radar. Now those spots are NO MORE UNDER the RADAR and our side will turn out for those elections understanding the importance of them, rather than treating them as local dogcather ones. Some of the rat ones that got in elected GOP states will have a hard time getting re-elected.


21 posted on 01/17/2021 1:47:10 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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Well, for firsties. I want to see that fat boogerhog from GA waterboarded.
Seewho was pulling her nasty strings.


26 posted on 01/17/2021 3:50:31 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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