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minimizing electoral fraud induced violence in the next few months (anyone? pence? pence?)
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| 12/28/2020
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Posted on 12/28/2020 9:10:54 PM PST by SteveH
i keep hearing that there is a way for pence to declare many of the EC votes fraudulent.
if pence is given the exclusive responsibility to "count" the votes, then even if alternative state EC slate votes are not formally "delivered" to pence, what if anything would prevent pence from inventing a new concept such as "senate presidential notice" and applying it on the fly to the 2020 election, voiding sufficient EC slates of some corrupt swing states such that the election is thrown to congress?
a rule of thumb i have often heard in engineering is that the cost of a fix to a problem is minimized by applying the fix at the earliest possible moment in the product life cycle. It seems to me irrefutable that the official election results are fraudulent and that this is well understood by a majority of the public.
most people will go along to get along, either way.
the problem is that some people will not go along. on the left there are the antifa, fighting for anarchy and communism. on the right are constitutional conservatives, fighting for principle.
if biden takes the presidency on january 20, the result is in my mind only a deferred conflict, not an avoided conflict. constitutional conservatives will wait in the tall grass until a match sets something on fire and there are casualties.
it seems to me that that wait would not necessarily be very long. with biden and harris in charge, both are likely to be incompetent at resolving national matters with competence. it seems reasonable to anticipate that they will respond to righteous anger by repressive measures. such repressive measures once taken will lead to a downwards spiral in confidence in the national government and in the extreme, open rebellion. all of that would lead to much bloodshed if that path is taken.
pence has a one time, take it or leave it opportunity to minimize such violence. as president of the senate he counts the EC votes, determining which are valid and which are invalid. what will pence's historical legacy be? the guy who ducked as the greatest nation in world history takes a knee to china, corrupt corporations and politicians-- perhaps on a pretext of avoiding bloodshed when some bloodshed is all but inevitable?
if there is to be a conflict, let's have it early. settle matters quickly and humanely for all concerned. we have already had one civil war and we now know that such a civil war can be forecast to last for a few weeks or months, and in fact drag on for years before a military resolution. in our case, the world will probably not wait for us to settle our internal disagreements, and figure that now would be a good time to strike potentially fatal blows against the USA in a time of internal weakness. we should as a matter of national security narrow that time of internal weakness as much as we can, as quickly as we can.
i wonder if pence's upcoming scheduled vacation is timed to remove pence from the national stage for a deliberate reason-- to minimize rancor after an contentious but correct call.
pence, if he chooses, can always point to the supreme court as the villains who would not stand up and be counted when they were needed. in fact, he has to do this for self preservation or else leave himself open to attack from the judicial branch.
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:10:54 PM PST
by
SteveH
To: All
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:13:00 PM PST
by
SteveH
To: SteveH
45 AND TEAM SET THE TRAP. PEOPLE COMMITTED TREASON. THEY WILL HANG AS A RESULT.
At this moment, POTUS is sitting on a stack of Trump cards that he's just waiting to unleash...a royal flush.
He has court cases that will go to SCOTUS and thanks to the TX case, he's now aware how to file them properly...under article 3 not 2...so the SCOTUS will be forced to listen.
He now has the DNI report. Barr stepped down and can now be a witness...he did his job. Durham is special counsel and can prosecute, in any state.
He’s letting civil, criminal and fed courts fail to handle the situation properly...so he can use military tribunals. He has ALL the data from the NSA, the Kraken supercomputer, the Alice supercomputer and likely many other ways unknown to us.
Now that the governors and sec’y of states certified and Biden accepted, they each committed and knowingly agreed to acts of Treason.
Solar Winds was just raided and Dominion is closing down as well. He has the CIA servers, used to change dominion machine votes from Trump to Biden and he will soon have access to the actual machines themselves.
He baited the Deep State into staying in DC so they can be arrested. Biden hasn’t accepted any transition money and Harris has still not given up her seat on the senate. The military has infiltrated Antifa and BLM. He has all their financial records. He knows which politicians took China and Soros money- both Republican and Democrat.
He positioned Christopher Miller as sec’y of defense and Ezra Cohen-Watnick as assistant sec’y of defense. He literally just wrote an EO regarding the military line of succession. Many suspect Watnick to be 17.
(Many of us suspect this is a very large group of clandestine military and other top officials plus maybe a few others like 35 Jr )
He is defunding the CIA. He just replaced Kissinger & Albright on the National Security Advisory Board w/men loyal to him.
The military has been flying planes, far more than usual, all over the country. The Navy just parked mega fleets on both coasts. The 82nd Airborne is preparing for an op which is the same group that Gen Flynn & AG Donoghue were enlisted.
Pieces are finally falling into place. POTUS has it all. He is just laying out the pieces and building the narrative. He knows he won and they committed treason. He set a trap and they walked right in without hesitation.
He gave the Deep State the chance to come clean and try to fix things. Some came clean and took deals. Many chose treason and they will all hang as a result. Patriots are in control. Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing.
Via Steph Qconn At this moment, POTUS is sitting on a stack of Trump cards that he's just waiting to unleash...a royal flush.
He has court cases that will go to SCOTUS and thanks to the TX case, he's now aware how to file them properly...under article 3 not 2...so the SCOTUS will be forced to listen.
He now has the DNI report. Barr stepped down and can now be a witness...he did his job. Durham is special counsel and can prosecute, in any state.
He’s letting civil, criminal and fed courts fail to handle the situation properly...so he can use military tribunals. He has ALL the data from the NSA, the Kraken supercomputer, the Alice supercomputer and likely many other ways unknown to us.
Now that the governors and sec’y of states certified and Biden accepted, they each committed and knowingly agreed to acts of Treason.
Solar Winds was just raided and Dominion is closing down as well. He has the CIA servers, used to change dominion machine votes from Trump to Biden and he will soon have access to the actual machines themselves.
He baited the Deep State into staying in DC so they can be arrested. Biden hasn’t accepted any transition money and Harris has still not given up her seat on the senate. The military has infiltrated Antifa and BLM. He has all their financial records. He knows which politicians took China and Soros money- both Republican and Democrat.
He positioned Christopher Miller as sec’y of defense and Ezra Cohen-Watnick as assistant sec’y of defense. He literally just wrote an EO regarding the military line of succession. Many suspect Watnick to be 17.
(Many of us suspect this is a very large group of clandestine military and other top officials plus maybe a few others like 35 Jr )
He is defunding the CIA. He just replaced Kissinger & Albright on the National Security Advisory Board w/men loyal to him.
The military has been flying planes, far more than usual, all over the country. The Navy just parked mega fleets on both coasts. The 82nd Airborne is preparing for an op which is the same group that Gen Flynn & AG Donoghue were enlisted.
Pieces are finally falling into place. POTUS has it all. He is just laying out the pieces and building the narrative. He knows he won and they committed treason. He set a trap and they walked right in without hesitation.
He gave the Deep State the chance to come clean and try to fix things. Some came clean and took deals. Many chose treason and they will all hang as a result. Patriots are in control. Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing.
Via Steph Qconn At this moment, POTUS is sitting on a stack of Trump cards that he's just waiting to unleash...a royal flush.
He has court cases that will go to SCOTUS and thanks to the TX case, he's now aware how to file them properly...under article 3 not 2...so the SCOTUS will be forced to listen.
He now has the DNI report. Barr stepped down and can now be a witness...he did his job. Durham is special counsel and can prosecute, in any state.
He’s letting civil, criminal and fed courts fail to handle the situation properly...so he can use military tribunals. He has ALL the data from the NSA, the Kraken supercomputer, the Alice supercomputer and likely many other ways unknown to us.
Now that the governors and sec’y of states certified and Biden accepted, they each committed and knowingly agreed to acts of Treason.
Solar Winds was just raided and Dominion is closing down as well. He has the CIA servers, used to change dominion machine votes from Trump to Biden and he will soon have access to the actual machines themselves.
He baited the Deep State into staying in DC so they can be arrested. Biden hasn’t accepted any transition money and Harris has still not given up her seat on the senate. The military has infiltrated Antifa and BLM. He has all their financial records. He knows which politicians took China and Soros money- both Republican and Democrat.
He positioned Christopher Miller as sec’y of defense and Ezra Cohen-Watnick as assistant sec’y of defense. He literally just wrote an EO regarding the military line of succession. Many suspect Watnick to be 17.
(Many of us suspect this is a very large group of clandestine military and other top officials plus maybe a few others like 35 Jr )
He is defunding the CIA. He just replaced Kissinger & Albright on the National Security Advisory Board w/men loyal to him.
The military has been flying planes, far more than usual, all over the country. The Navy just parked mega fleets on both coasts. The 82nd Airborne is preparing for an op which is the same group that Gen Flynn & AG Donoghue were enlisted.
Pieces are finally falling into place. POTUS has it all. He is just laying out the pieces and building the narrative. He knows he won and they committed treason. He set a trap and they walked right in without hesitation.
He gave the Deep State the chance to come clean and try to fix things. Some came clean and took deals. Many chose treason and they will all hang as a result. Patriots are in control. Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing.
Via Steph Qconn (Does anyone know who this is or who Qcomm is?
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:20:13 PM PST
by
BigEdLB
(All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others-George Orwell)
To: Fred Nerks
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:24:53 PM PST
by
Candor7
((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
To: BigEdLB
To: BigEdLB
A quick search seems to show the possible linked name is a cover name for an anonymous person that had at one time been thanked for research efforts by the Qanon links I saw.
There was only One reference to the name out of 200 hits, most relating to non published or personal actual name address etc.
Your welcome
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:35:09 PM PST
by
Swiffer_Ralf
(Orig. Eureka_Lead)
To: BigEdLB
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:38:23 PM PST
by
Big Red Badger
("Bats Soup" to "Nuts" Biden,CHINAs' Beind it ALL!)
To: SteveH
"...CWII..."
As long as the water, electricity, natural gas, gasoline, internet, television, and cellular are all working...conservatives are not going to do anything...even if the criminal Biden/Harris steal puts them in office.
Libs are not individualists and they stick together with essentially no infighting.
They are also far more volatile, emotional, and typically have little to risk.
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:40:57 PM PST
by
Blue Jays
( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
To: BigEdLB
9
posted on
12/28/2020 9:42:49 PM PST
by
RBW in PA
To: BigEdLB
All I can say is buckle up.
10
posted on
12/28/2020 9:44:25 PM PST
by
waterhill
(`)
To: Swiffer_Ralf
To: BigEdLB
Come back in a month with a report on the accuracy of what you posted.
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posted on
12/28/2020 9:53:17 PM PST
by
bigbob
(Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
To: RBW in PA
“Suspect the rest of your claims are also false.”
Many of his claims are false and have been debunked. For example, he asks why Harris has not resigned her Senate seat but fails to mention that VP Pence did not leave office as Gov. of Indiana until January 9, 2017.
To: SteveH
There will be no peace regardless of the election outcome. None of this can be walked back. Consider the nature of our enemies and KTF.
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posted on
12/28/2020 10:01:16 PM PST
by
Noumenon
("Only the dead have seen an end to war." - Plato (KTF))
To: Blue Jays
> As long as the water, electricity, natural gas, gasoline, internet, television, and cellular are all working...
... as of this writing. i would take issue if you had mentioned elections, health care, or transportation. that is not an insignificant counter list. i am not certain that it will stop with those.
> ...conservatives are not going to do anything...even if the criminal Biden/Harris steal puts them in office.
again, i explained that the violence is almost certain to come if no action is taken. i can certainly imagine some people saying that non violent action should have been taken sooner, in a more republican setting. i am using that argument to argue in favor of such a more timely non-violent option.
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posted on
12/28/2020 10:05:51 PM PST
by
SteveH
To: BigEdLB
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posted on
12/28/2020 10:17:56 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
To: SteveH
A helpful barometer will be the number of people attending the Stop The Steal rally in Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
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posted on
12/28/2020 10:20:09 PM PST
by
Blue Jays
( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
To: The Mayor
Many of us do.
But wanting to believe something doesn’t make it reality.
Things will unfold as they will, regardless of what we want, and we will be forced to deal with whatever results.
That is the ONLY certainty.
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posted on
12/28/2020 10:49:46 PM PST
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: BigEdLB
We have been hearing 4D chess like that since Trump was elected. Four years on, we are still waiting for all the traps to be sprung.
To: SteveH
Is your shift key broken or are you just an asshole?
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posted on
12/29/2020 12:15:01 AM PST
by
CodeToad
(Arm Up! They Have!)
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