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1 posted on 12/23/2020 5:30:42 AM PST by MtnClimber
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The police are protecting their pensions. I hope that some will realize that a pension in a dystopian country is not a thing to cherish.
2 posted on 12/23/2020 5:31:16 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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In “Fahrenheit 451” it is the job of the firemen to go around and burn stuff.

Nowadays, law enforcement seems to have the job of supporting people who oppose law and order, and also the job of persecuting law-abiding citizens.


3 posted on 12/23/2020 5:36:42 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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We back the blue, but will they back us?

NO, the Police, regardless of what you think of them or wether or not you support them, HAVE NO LEGAL DUTY to Protect the citizenry from anything. The only LEGAL Duty and Obligation ANY Police Officer has is to the Political Entity that employs them. Most will "Just Follow Orders" as an act of self preservation. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!!
4 posted on 12/23/2020 5:37:10 AM PST by eyeamok
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5 posted on 12/23/2020 5:37:18 AM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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Ya, ve ver shust followink orrrrderrrs.


8 posted on 12/23/2020 5:51:05 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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It’s very simple really. Police officers everywhere are no better, no worse than the citizens they serve.

Do you live in a city like Portland or Minneapolis or Chicago? Do you elect people like London Breed, Nancy Pelosi or Gavin Newsom? Then you deserve the rotten, awful, corrupt police force that controls you.

Do you live in a conservative decent community? Do you elect competent qualified individuals? Then you can count on and depend on the support of your local law enforcement agency.


10 posted on 12/23/2020 5:52:28 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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The left is going to have a critical need for bullies to take our firearms, seize private property and suppress free speech and thought crimes. They’re going to need experts on the tactics of the SS, Einsatzgruppen and the KGB. “Reimagining” law enforcement will mean getting rid of traditional police thinking and creating organizations that can undertake duties like torture, herding innocents into gas chambers, and punishing nonconformist thinking. This will be the response when the public demands control of violent crimes.


11 posted on 12/23/2020 5:56:52 AM PST by Spok (All free men are equal only in their freedom; everything else is up to them.dirt road.)
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The Democrats have made it undesirable to be the police.

I suspect the trend of police departments in major cities is the same as what is happening in NY City:

50 NYPD Cops Flee To Nassau County PD As Mass Exodus Continues

"The city spent millions of dollars training these cops hoping that they would be around for another 20-plus years,” one NYPD officer said. “That money and experience just walked out the door, putting a further drain on the city’s budget nightmare.”

https://policetribune.com/50-nypd-cops-flee-to-nassau-county-pd-as-mass-exodus-continues/

That means to fill police departments, standards will have to be lowered (again).

14 posted on 12/23/2020 6:01:24 AM PST by Bon of Babble (In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!)
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To: cuban leaf; conservative98; rlmorel
They've done it again.

Don't police officers swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? Well, yes, they do. In fact, that is their paramount responsibility.

Um, actually, no

First, police departments are not federal but local units. There is no central, mandated oath.

Second, a sampling of oaths show a consistent theme of SUPPORTING the Constitution, but not protection AND defense, i.e. Phoenix: I (state your name), do solemnly swear (or affirm), that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution and laws of the State of Arizona, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and defend them against enemies, foreign and domestic, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge, the duties of a peace officer, to the best of my ability, so help me God.

Third, regarding the author's assertion that Many of us asked how the police could obey such orders and allow criminals to have free rein in our streets — criminals whose victims, I might add, included over 2,000 police officers, the Courts have held that the police are not obligated to defend people. "the government had no affirmative duty to protect any person, even a child, from harm by another person. “Nothing in the language of the Due Process Clause itself requires the State to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens against invasion by private actors," stated Chief Justice Rehnquist for the majority, "even where such aid may be necessary to secure life, liberty, or property interests of which the government itself may not deprive the individual" without “due process of the law.”

As long as we are here, the author breathlessly states "It appears that some of the protesters showed up armed (some with firearms and at least one with a pitchfork). Although Oregon is an open carry state, several cities have open carry bans in public places. And as is the case in many open carry states, no firearms are allowed inside public buildings anywhere in the state."

Fair enough. Yet, during the lockdowns, didn't we cheer when people entered the MI statehouse with firearms? The right to KABA is plenary, and not reserved to Republicans or anti-lockdown folks.

There are probably other things but I have to prep for Christmas. Your mileage may vary.

16 posted on 12/23/2020 6:13:44 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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Police are trained to obey orders. That comes before allegiance to the Constitution. When a corrupt democrat administration tells them to do something, they have a choice: obey or get fired. Most obey.

Since the police are an extension of the power of the civilians in public office, there is much to be feared here. They have the power to detain and injure individuals. When the civil authorities use the police to enforce a political agenda, we lose all rights.


18 posted on 12/23/2020 6:20:01 AM PST by I want the USA back (I fear my government much much much much much much much much much much more than a virus from china.)
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Right and wrong have been purposefully redefined in the public parlance. It’s how they get people to riot & loot, obfuscate vote counts, etc. - make them think it’s some righteous crusade.


21 posted on 12/23/2020 6:51:23 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Other than collectively having a few more firearms and ammunition than I have the local police are not as well trained or practiced as I am. I know for a fact they don’t practice near as much. In concert with my practice group I am pretty sure we have better tactics and organization than the local swat. So when the shtf they can either be with us or against, in either case we will prevail.


23 posted on 12/23/2020 7:01:02 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: MtnClimber; 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


25 posted on 12/23/2020 7:31:32 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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the rule being that most people, including the police, will be cowards in the face of tyrants.

Most people, including police, will be cowards in the face of losing a well-paying job.

27 posted on 12/23/2020 8:10:37 AM PST by libertylover (Remember: Deep State hated Jesus too.)
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