Posted on 12/17/2020 2:31:22 PM PST by gas_dr
I was asked by several Freepers to post a thread once I have received my Pfizer Corona Virus Vaccine. As many of you know, I am a critical care physician in a large city environment. We have been having a surge for the last several weeks.
I received the Vaccine this morning at 7:56 AM. I was the third physician outside of the large academic center in town to receive the vaccine. Our hospital system had the vaccine released it first as we are the largest non-academic system in the city.
Prequel: I have been on experimental prophylaxis combination for health care workers since March. I have been taking part in a study sanctioned by an IRB and been administered a protocol of medications on a daily an weekly basis. In my practice, I currently have had well over 1500 encounters with CoVID patients in the hospital setting, have had responsibility for the surge CoVID unit in July, and now again this month. I have completed numerous airway interventions on CoVID patients and some how managed to never contract the virus.
My hospital system has genuinely taken exceptional care of its HCW and employees and I am lucky as we have never lacked for PPE, made significant reuses of PPE, and was actually provided a P100 mask fit for me by the hospital. All of my colleague received the same.
I was contacted by the system chief medical officer on Monday and the department chair on Tuesday that I was considered 1A in terms of priority as were roughly 18 of my physician colleagues. Critical care nurses and anyone in any of our critical care units were also contacted. I was told to arrive at 745 this AM.
EVENT: I arrived and underwent a very streamlined check in process, gave written informed consent that was not unusual in any way. Acknowledged that this was a vaccine being administered under EUA conditions. The media was out in force as this was the first private hospital as previously said that was inoculating its staff.
I was called third stepped up and underwent the most routine of injections. The vaccination was administered into my left deltoid, a quantity of approximately 0.3 cc on a 30 g needle. To say I felt nothing would be absolutely true. There was absolutely pain. I was asked to wait in an observed seating area for 20 minutes after my vaccine and then released.
Over the course of the day, I have developed very mild muscle pain in the left arm. It is not at all limiting in anyway. I have had no other symptoms. We were told that approximately 6% of patients develop very low grade symptoms.
I was given my CDC vaccination card and read every word of it. It states that this card is an record of administration, the lot number, date and time of vaccine was recorded. It says to please present this card to my primary care provider at my net appointment for addition to my medical record. There is absolutely nothing on this card that says or implies that I should maintain it on my person. as a record.
I was scheduled for follow up booster in 19 - 21 days. When I left, I cannot quantify the wave of relief and genuine happiness that I had. I was reflecting that in 7 days, I would not longer have to personally worry about this disease causing a tragic outcome in me personally. I also was overjoyed that the means in 7 - 10 days I will no longer be a threat to my family, my elderly parents, and I won't have to get any further CoVID tests.
Like as been said in the media and by President Trump and Pence. There is light at the end of the tunnel, and there is hope that this is the beginning of the end. I genuinely felt that and continue to feel it. As I have said before, this represents the Manhattan project of the 21st century. I am proud to be a recipient of this vaccine, and grateful for the President who made this happen in 10 months. They said it couldn't happen. They were wrong. I will continue to update how I feel, and the next round in early January
To all Freepers out there -- be well, stay safe and Merry Christmas.
A case in point is the decision by Sanofi Pasteur to no longer use an aborted fetal cell line in producing its polio vaccines, a move recently approved by the FDA.
Sanofi is one of the companies currently developing a COVID-19 vaccine by utilizing “cell lines not connected to unethical procedures and methods.” Inovio Pharmaceuticals and the John Paul II Medical Research Institute are other such companies.
I forgot a little word. It should read
I felt NO pain.
We have been told that while you may no longer get the virus you are still a carrier and can infect people just like before the shot...AND those who have gotten the shot will still be required to wear a mask...
Read today that those who are administering the shots are not required to wear gloves unless there is an open sore...
Seems odd to me that while a vaccine has always taken many years to develop these vaccines were created in just a couple of months...And that is 3 separate companies who created these vaccines within a week or so of each other..
Makes me wonder if these vaccines weren't sitting in the wings somewhere just waiting for the right time to be dispensed...
Thanks for clarifying. The meaning could have been either way. No pain is definitely preferable.
The most common auto correct that is made in my voice activation writing on Freerepublic changes the positive negative quality of a statement. I’m going to start keeping a list of all the different ways this happens. I will add your statement to it. You probably did include the word “no” when you first made your statement.
Then what kind of cells were they? Please provide a source.
Stem cell, an undifferentiated cell that can divide to produce some offspring cells that continue as stem cells and some cells that are destined to differentiate (become specialized). Stem cells are an ongoing source of the differentiated cells that make up the tissues and organs of animals and plants.
Thank you!
And really glad to hear of your vaccine experience. Very good to hear of the relief this brings to you. I can’t imagine the stress everyone in the medical field has been under
You also forget a big word, "abortion". And babies feel pain.
Very nice...hopeful. You're a great role model in a scary time...
I’m quoting the science. You may great as an icu doc but you don’t understand vaccines and how they work
Sorry my friend. Your bias and your opinion as jaded you. I respect you but I do Understand immunology. And you ware flat out wrong on this.
In the making of this vaccine there were no aborted fetal lines. As as been said early testing may have used the cell lines you are talking about. Most pastors have shed their light on the situation. Being a Protestant I understand the faith to be not in news of an intermediary.
And we could always ask the age old Ethical questions about if this confers meaning to a senseless death. Any fetal tissue in early testing was not aborted specifically for this reason. And again in this vaccine there were. No stem cells.
I respect your position but this is a fine of enough line that there are several ethical arguments to be made either way.
I don’t know what the ridiculous flurry of posts is about but I corrected ‘stem’ to ‘cell’ in #30.
The Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines offer the same protection as the smallpox vaccine.
The smallpox vaccine wiped smallpox off the face of the Earth.
Thank you for sharing your experience, my FRiend! I’m glad to know you have the vaccine now, though I must confess some jealousy! Best health to you and your family.
The issue with antibodies is that the cells that produce them (B-cells) essentially work themselves to death producing antibodies. It’s extremely energy-intensive to produce them. If your body didn’t stop producing antibodies to the pathogens it’s exposed to after infection, you’d burn through so much energy you’d have nothing left for basic metabolic processes.
After an infection is beaten, 90% of the B-cells involved in antibody production die. About 10% go dormant and remain as Memory B-cells. Should that same pathogen be encountered again in the future, dendritic cells can trigger T-cells to wake those Memory B-cells and restart antibody production. As long as the pathogen hasn’t changed the surface structure that the antibodies bind to, they’ll still be effective. Based on our experience with SARS-CoV-1 (SARS2003) and MERS-CoV (MERS2012), antibodies for SARS-CoV-2 should be effective for at least 2-3 years.
Unfortunately, when we talk about testing, there’s just the PCR test which demonstrates the presence or absence of SARS-CoV-2 genetic material (typically indicating active infection or recently overcome infection) and serology (antibody) testing, which will detect the presence of antibodies, which are only present until the B-cells give up the ghost.
I am not biased. Nor am I jaded
But thanks for sharing
Our research on campus showed that covid antibodies hang around AT LEAST 6 weeks. The study was done on young healthy students. The study went silent with speculation being that results went all over the place and the students got sent home after Thanksgiving.
The one thing I liked best about Covid was the mask. I can walk into the bong shop downtown without people knowing it is me.
I heard a rumor that front-line workers may get it before the elderly.
I suspect the real reason is Swine Flu Vaccine Syndrome.
Pray, tell me: What does it mean that the vaccine was 52% effective?
ML/NJ
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