Posted on 12/17/2020 7:53:39 AM PST by SteveH
this is a hypothetical scenario, about how a civil war might start, which has been lurking in the back of my mind lately. i do not think it is the worst case scenario but it is still very scary and so of course i hope none of it happens. however by way of illustration i include some financial details along with the larger context of a situation which imho could in theory unravel relatively quickly-- basically before most people and institutions can react to protect their investments.
now through jan. 17th - trump continues to test the boundaries, but gains little or no further traction with the government embedded deep state. somehow, his 5d chess moves may have been insufficient to overcome the deep state election fraud and fraud upon the courts. The legislatures are deadlocked. for whatever reason, perhaps to avoid bloodshed, trump declines to declare martial law. in what is apparently becoming the last week of his presidency, trump makes one final effort directly to the american people, calling for a massive pro-american rally in Washington DC on jan. 19th.
jan. 19th - 10 million people show up in Washington DC in support of trump. it is a peaceful celebration. at the end of the day, people return to their homes all across the nation. trump pardons his family, pence, and pence's family, but not himself.
jan. 20th - midnight- trump leaves the White House, flies to florida, and determines to stay out of politics for the time being. biden/harris administration takes over the White House.
jan 20th - 2000 people show up for biden/harris inauguration. the contrast in support by the american people becomes undeniable, even to the MSM. The MSM dutifully broadcast patently fake crowd footage from 2008 and 2012, and pretend that it is 2020 footage. no one is fooled. biden/harris and their handlers panic. a 2020 version of the reichstag fire is set in motion. a few innocent biden supporters are "victimized" by "right wing provocateurs" (who may in actuality be deep state actors, though any hint of this possibility is carefully avoided by biden/harris and the MSM).
jan 21 - as a result of a so-called "right wing attack" on biden/harris supporter victims, biden/harris and handlers declare indefinite martial law in all 50 states and DC. additionally, biden declares friday jan 22 as a "bank holiday" in which banks are closed. biden declares trump to be a traitor and orders his location and capture.
jan 22 - banks are closed. thousands of pro american people start to march towards DC again, of their own accord. possession of gold, silver and other precious metals is prohibited by biden executive order, and must be turned into banks for federal reserve notes when the banks open. the stock and commodities markets shut down. trump and family disappears.
jan 23rd - a bigger demonstration-- 20 million people show up in DC. the demonstration is peaceful, but unauthorized, and martial law and lethal force are used to disperse the peaceful crowd. thousands of casualties. MSM blame the peaceful pro american protesters. biden/harris panic again and extend the bank holiday indefinitely, stock and commodities markets to remain down.
jan 24- insurrection across the usa against federal facilities. big swing state cities and DC are targeted. all business and all transportation is shut down indefinitely. at midnight EST, the civilian internet is turned off across the nation.
jan 25- banks, markets, businesses, and all roads remain closed until further notice. full scale war breaks out. banks join federal facilities as targets of military operations. power to all major cities is cut off. china attacks taiwan.
6 months to 5 years later-- unconditional surrender terms reached; one side wins and the other side loses.
again this is a hypothetical case. the damages described need to be weighted by its probability of occurrence. However, i just do not know what that probability of occurrence is. We know the deep state controls much of the government and the MSM, and is not afraid to abuse the public trust. What we do not yet know is at what point the deep state is willing to back off and give up when confronted by honest citizens asserting their natural rights. I have no firm answers except that it might not be a bad idea to be prepared for all reasonably imaginable possibilities.
perhaps by discussing the unthinkable, we can somehow figure out a way to avoid the unthinkable.
Could be a movie someday...but, the roles of Trump & Biden will be reversed...?
bfl
China Joe-Ho would not declare martial law in that situation. They will be pleased to be in power, even clearly illegitimately. They own both the Senate and House, they will simply begin to push their communists plans through the Congress without debate to consolidate power and ensure there will never be another free and fair election again.
They won’t see the point to worrying about the people who disagree, focus is on locking down the country, consolidate power.
I do like the idea of 20 Million Deplorables turning up in DC a few days before the Biden Inaugural...
That would be hard for CBSABCNBCMSNBCCNN to hide...and, it would be a great contrast to the events of January 21st...
The MEDIA will say the crowd was Biden small due to COVID...
The worst case scenario is that there is no civil war at all.
Civil war is the best case scenario, however way it starts.
Democrats have no incentive to start it at this point because they’re running the show. We can show up in our millions and they won’t give a shit. Won’t even report on it. Biden will have a Covid19 safe inauguration with no one showing up except the freaks and cretins of DC, six feet apart, all masked up.
Next will come the attack to make sure there will never be a Trump presidency again. The amnesty to illegals with citizenship. The refugees coming in in mass numbers. Censorship will go into overdrive and will be normal, with Trump getting removed from Twitter followed thereafter by more attacks and retribution from the “private” sector. Attacking our gun rights, attacking our property rights, undermining and weakening us permanently. They’ll pack the court after SCOTUS shoots something down, maybe the ban on online sales, though almost seems like they don’t need to with Roberts around.
The best thing that could happen to us is a civil war, and so they won’t give it. We’ll have to push for it ourselves, calling for secession in our home states. Texas seems the logical first place to start.
When the police try to disperse them you know a good percentage of the 20m would be armed. That could be the start right there.
Quite the hypothetical. I seriously doubt that many Americans will get their butts off the couch to fulfill this scenario.
As long as they have WiFi, cell phones, big screen TVs, food and shelter... Nothing will change.
It won’t start with a single massive event like this.
If it did start, it would be as an escalation of tit for tat violence. Eventually, there will be a lunatic who opens fire on a crowd. Probably multiple events like this. Then we descend down the slippery slope, where neither side backs down.
Replace “Biden” with “Obama” for the action sequences. Obama will actually be in charge pulling the strings.
Americans have no stomach for a fight. 19th century Americans were a VERY different people.
I agree that civil war or a peaceful national divorce/secession happens.
War is how this will be stopped. Anything short of all out civil war will come up short.
And frankly, I don’t a sh*t about Taiwan. Tell them to get some nukes as tripwires. We don’t owe them anything.
We have a coming war, so prepare. I’m shopping for my first AR-15.
More than likely DC will be on a strict lockdown for Jan 20th. So will MD and VA. They will use Covid 19 as the excuse for the lockdown
Yes. You can fit 800,000 on the Mall and not fill it. Twenty million patriotic Americans could fill the Mall and 5-7 streets in each direction around the Mall. We would no doubt also have Antifa there, trying to stab anyone who was not alert (in the back, because that's how Antifa works). And, yes, I would certainly go armed, since we know the DC Police are under orders to protect Antifa and not to protect productive citizens.
I don’t see it as being a big event like that. I’d see more like something incredibly unpopular to Red states is implemented.
Several Red States, and red areas in swing/blue states declare themselves autonomous zones, and eject all fed presence. Game on from there...
You forgot a couple of things....
Biden/Harris call in the UN for support to quell unrest.
China takes advantage and co-ops Australia and Asia.
Canada supports the Federals and allows China continued unfettered access to North America.
You will be grossly overcharged. Pay it. The same for ammo - buy it, more than you can imagine needing, and pay the premium for getting in at the last minute.
A demonic 70s supreme court legalized the unmitigated slaughter of America's unborn. Tens of millions of the most innocent humans on earth have been murdered mercilessly.
If we were ever going to do anything, we would have done it way before now.
Anything else is simply meaningless internet chest thumping. We'll do what we always have done. Nothing.
Here’s another scenario. If Catatonic Joe prevails with the cheating, there will/might/could be federal Dystopia Virus mandates for states. States that don’t conform to those mandates will/might/could be cut of from federal funds. States cut off from federal funds will/might/could/should refuse to collect federal taxes and have no reason to be part of any union.
If POTUS does not invoke the insurrection act, it’s over. He has to be in charge when it all goes down (military.) I pray that he has the courage to take the risk. We have his back.
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