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Ford wants some Tesla buzz as all-electric Mach-E Mustang hits showrooms
CNBC ^ | Published Tue, Dec 15 20206:00 AM EST Updated Tue, Dec 15 20208:43 AM EST | Michael Wayland

Posted on 12/15/2020 10:40:58 AM PST by Red Badger

Key Points

The Mustang Mach-E is arriving at Ford dealerships as its first new all-electric vehicle under an $11 billion investment plan in electrification through 2022. The importance of the Mach-E for Ford can’t be understated as it needs to convince Wall Street that Ford’s EV plans are headed in the right direction. The Mustang Mach-E is aimed squarely at the Tesla Model Y but engineers also took inspiration from the iPhone and Netflix.

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The Mustang Mach-E is Ford’s first new all-electric vehicle under an $11 billion investment plan in electrified vehicles through 2022. Michael Wayland / CNBC

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DETROIT – Tesla cars and SUVs are often compared with an iPhone on wheels. Tesla’s four models — the S, 3, X and Y SUV — literally spell out the word “sexy.”

High tech and sex appeal are not things most Fords are known for, but that’s something the 117-year-old automaker hopes to change with the all-electric Mustang Mach-E crossover. It’s the company’s first EV under an $11 billion investment plan in electric vehicles through 2022, and it’s Ford’s first shot at Tesla.

“This was intended to be a tech-forward car,” Darren Palmer, global director of battery electric vehicles at Ford, told CNBC at a press briefing. “It’s nothing like anything we’ve ever had before.”

The importance of this vehicle for Ford can’t be overstated. Its success won’t solely be defined by sales alone. Ford is trying to create some Tesla-type buzz and convince Wall Street that its EV plans are headed in the right direction.

“This is Ford’s statement on EVs on where they are today and sets the tone of where they can go tomorrow,” said Stephanie Brinley, principal automotive analyst at IHS Markit. “This isn’t their ultimate EV development because there’s more coming, but where they put their foot down to begin with is important in setting them up for the future.”

Ford has been slower than others like General Motors to fully commit to EVs. It’s something Ford’s new CEO Jim Farley has been very involved in as the automaker focuses efforts on electrifying its money-making commercial vehicles and versions of its most iconic brands, namely the F-150 and Mustang. watch now VIDEO01:25 Ford unveils Mustang Mach-E, an all-electric SUV

The Mustang Mach-E, which is hitting dealer showrooms now, is aimed squarely at the Tesla Model Y crossover — so much so that Ford unveiled the Mustang Mach-E next to Tesla’s design center outside Los Angeles.

The vehicle has a Tesla-like interior with a large 15.5-inch center screen as its control center. Pricing, performance and technologies such as over-the-air updates and driver-assist technologies are comparable to the Tesla Model Y.

Palmer described the functionality of the Mach-E’s infotainment system much like an iPhone, which can learn habits or owners and preemptively prioritize features. It also offers digital driver profiles like “Netflix where you’ve got profiles for each person of the family,” he said. Owners also can program the car to precondition the cabin daily based on driving schedules. The interior of the Mach-E features a vertical 15.5-inch center screen in addition to a 10.2-inch information cluster in front of the driver. The interior of the Mach-E features a vertical 15.5-inch center screen in addition to a 10.2-inch information cluster in front of the driver. Ford, Non-Tesla buyers

Despite the Mustang Mach-E’s similarities to the Model Y, Palmer said the target market isn’t Tesla owners — a group famously loyal to their vehicles and Tesla CEO Elon Musk. Ford is going after new EV buyers.

“The typical buyer is the 99% of people who don’t buy EVs today. Our job at Ford, what we do, is bring cars to the majority. And so this one is to bring people into electric cars and show them what they can do,” he said. Palmer added if the vehicle does attract current Tesla owners, that’s fine as well.

About 65% of Mach-E preorder owners are new to Ford, according to Palmer. Many are from coastal areas of the country, where the Detroit automakers typically underperform. Ford Mustang Mach-E Then-Ford CEO James Hackett (3rd R) and team members, including his successor, Jim Farley (3rd L), reveal the company’s first mass-market electric car the Mustang Mach-E, which is an all-electric vehicle that bears the name of the company’s iconic muscle car at a ceremony in Hawthorne, California on November 17, 2019. Mark Ralston | AFP | Getty Images

Henry Payne, a Tesla Model 3 owner and auto critic at The Detroit News, believes the Mach-E may attract some Tesla buyers “who want something different” — specifically in California, where Teslas have become more prevalent than other areas of the U.S. He described the Mach-E, including its driver-mounted information screen, as a balance between a traditional cars and new Tesla models.

“They’re clearly looking at customers and saying if a Tesla is too extreme for you with just one screen, we’re going to give you an instrument display as well so the car’s a little more familiar,” he said. “They’ve made touches like that to make the car more familiar.” Performance

Pricing, performance and EV range for the Mach-E are comparable to the Model Y. Top performance models of the Mach-E will achieve 0-60 miles per hour in the mid-3-second range with an estimated 459 horsepower and 612 foot pounds of torque. That makes it faster off the line than a Porsche Macan Turbo and in line with the Mustang Shelby GT500 and Tesla Model Y. It has an EPS-estimated range of up to 300 miles.

Payne said although the Mach-E is “really good,” he won’t be trading in his Model 3 anytime soon. One major reason is Tesla’s exclusive Supercharger network. Ford and other automakers are using chargers from third-party companies that they don’t have as much control over regarding pricing and functionality. watch now VIDEO01:32 Ford unveils electric Mustang Mach-E race car with 1,400 horsepower

One advantage Ford will continue to have over Tesla for the foreseeable future is an up to $7,500 federal tax credit for EV owners. Both Tesla and GM reached a cap that limits the tax credit to a company’s first 200,000 EV buyers.

Starting pricing — excluding the federal tax incentives — ranges from about $44,000 for the base Select model to $60,500 for a performance GT, which is expected to go on sale in next summer. The Model Y starts at roughly $50,000 or $60,000 depending on the model. Mustang DNA

Many were surprised by Ford using the Mustang name and its iconic galloping pony badge on a crossover. It marks the first time in the car’s 56-year history that Ford has used the name on anything but a two-door pony car.

Aside from its badging and performance, the Mach-E includes Mustang design aspects such as a long hood, rear haunch, aggressive headlights, and trademark tri-bar tail lamps. The “grille” of the vehicle also is cut out to resemble the pony car. watch now VIDEO04:55 Ford unveils all-electric Mustang Mach-E

“We had the performance icons team work with us in tuning, when we made the decision that this product is going to be full on Mustang,” said Mark Kaufman, Ford’s global director of electrification.

Before the decision to make it a Mustang, Ford was benchmarking the vehicle as a “compliance” EV, according to company officials. But that changed after former Ford CEO Jim Hackett took over the automaker in May 2017 and tapped Farley to lead the company’s EV plans.

“Our idea was we didn’t want to create a commodity product. We wanted to put emotion into electric vehicles,” Farley said this month on CNBC’s “Jay Leno’s Garage.” “That’s why we started with a Mustang.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; copyrightviolation; electric; ford; tesla
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To: Red Badger

Does it come with a stick?


41 posted on 12/15/2020 11:49:47 AM PST by CapnJack ( )
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To: CapnJack

Yes, to beat off the babes..................... 80 year old babes.................


42 posted on 12/15/2020 11:53:34 AM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I saw where some crowd converted a late 70s K5 to electrical.

I’ll pass.

Eventually my 79 will get another 350.


43 posted on 12/15/2020 12:01:20 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Red Badger

I am an engineer, not a marketer, but the Mach-Es seem to me like they dilute the Mustang brand. Mustangs are more known for powerful engines and sloppy handling, like pony cars in general. An electric car had no overlap with the history of Mustang, never even a hybrid Mustang.

I also would never trust Ford with first generation car showcasing new tech anyway. They have a hard enough time just delivering a decent FWD car and they have been building those over 40 years now. No chance one of these will grace my driveway.


44 posted on 12/15/2020 12:06:33 PM PST by Flying Circus (God help us )
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To: Flying Circus

I have owned cars from all the major manufacturers, US, Japan, Korea, Germany, and UK.

They all have one thing in common:

They ALL break down eventually...................


45 posted on 12/15/2020 12:10:00 PM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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To: wally_bert

They didn’t get any better in 1976. Had a ‘76 Levi Renegade CJ-7 with a 304 140hp and a 3-speed tranny. At 55 mph is was revving around 3,500 rpm.


46 posted on 12/15/2020 12:13:26 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: NFHale

Nice bit of car history there
But. I hate like hell to say it but these new fangled lectric machines are faster.
Well, quicker off the line.
I’m worrying when some goober figures a way to make one beat a top fueler.


47 posted on 12/15/2020 12:14:02 PM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' Baby, Molon Labe )
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To: Red Badger

Runs 160mph for 17 miles. Then you gotta charge it for 8 hours


48 posted on 12/15/2020 12:15:40 PM PST by kjam22 ( )
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To: dainbramaged

Not more than 200 miles. Then it takes 8 hours to charge


49 posted on 12/15/2020 12:16:36 PM PST by kjam22 ( )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

electric cars are free from OPEC pricing


50 posted on 12/15/2020 12:19:08 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: kjam22

Or 17MPH for 160 miles....................


51 posted on 12/15/2020 12:19:23 PM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Joe Boucher

That’s only some of the muscle I’ve owned over the years...:^)

I’ts just weird knowing there’s no gas powered heart and soul under the hood... and hearing that magnificent rumble coming out of twin pipes with Cherry Bombs installed... Yeah, I’m an old school Motorhead. :)


52 posted on 12/15/2020 12:19:35 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

On the way home today a brand new Mustang went by me with a 5.0 in her.
Man it sounded like music.


53 posted on 12/15/2020 12:26:17 PM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' Baby, Molon Labe )
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Red Barchetta>. Rush never made a proper video but this fan did a great job. As one comment said, "It's not about the car - it's about human freedom."
54 posted on 12/15/2020 12:39:20 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (Obama wasn't qualified so Biden was actually President. He can't serve three terms.)
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To: Joe Boucher

And the 5.0 is really a 302 block if I’m not mistaken... so THAT legacy lives on.

Yeah... it IS music, brother. The only sound better than the rumble of a V8 is a Browning Automatic Rifle on full auto...

But I still remember that 390... old FE series motor... my god that thing was scary fast. Exhilarating, actually... nothing like it today that I can afford.

I paid 325 bucks for it, in 1980. Those days are gone.


55 posted on 12/15/2020 12:40:02 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Fresh Wind
Take the pony off the front, and you would never guess that it’s a Mustang.

That's because it isn't. Ford is trying to convert a model into a brand like Dodge did with Ram trucks. They will have a series of cars that carry the Mustang brand. I think they want to do the same thing with the new Bronco that will have two different platforms including 2 doors and 4 doors.

56 posted on 12/15/2020 12:44:44 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: CodeToad

Watered down 70s V8s, so sad.

I have acquired a rebuilt in the past couple of years, a 304 that have been beefed up some.

It spun over the last time I tried but no ignition. The motor was out of the jeep it came in. I tried a few variations on jumper wires just to get something. Even a misfire.

Probably needs that external control module.


57 posted on 12/15/2020 12:47:25 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Red Badger

“its success won’t be solely defined by sales alone”

WTF. Really. So it’ll be a loss leader like the Chevy Volt and now Bolt. This should be comforting to Ford stockholders.


58 posted on 12/15/2020 12:58:03 PM PST by technically right
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To: dainbramaged

That’s a problem for sure. Especially the winter part, because batteries struggle in the cold to begin with and you are using battery capacity instead of waste heat to warm/defrost. E-cars are well suited to places like NorCal where the climate is temperate most of the year.


59 posted on 12/15/2020 1:02:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: technically right

Basically, it’s an experimental platform...................


60 posted on 12/15/2020 1:04:08 PM PST by Red Badger ( “The goal of socialism is communism.”... Vladimir Lenin)
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