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1 posted on 12/13/2020 11:55:02 AM PST by grey_whiskers
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*PING* to a weird science-y thing. Who runs the Electric Universe Pinglist please, this is right up their alley.


2 posted on 12/13/2020 11:56:38 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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5 posted on 12/13/2020 12:01:14 PM PST by Jim W N (uestion is how badly di the corrupt TDominion softer)
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Bfl


6 posted on 12/13/2020 12:01:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Okay, so how, why, and where does this energy appear from? Guess I don’t understand the definition of energy. BTW, is gravity an energy or a separate force in itself? Wish I had studied physics.


7 posted on 12/13/2020 12:03:40 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamo nauseated. Also LGBTQxyz nauseated )
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“New Theory Casually Upends Space and Time”

Hypothesis ...


9 posted on 12/13/2020 12:11:25 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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“Working from the idea of a universe of flowing energy lines, we looked for a single building block for the flowing energy,” Silverberg, a professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering, writes in The Conversation. “If we could find and define such a thing, we hoped we could use it to accurately make predictions about the universe at the largest and tiniest scales.”

What’s the Matter?
In the 4th century B.C., the ancient Greek philosopher, Aristotle, formulated the idea that the universe was composed of five building blocks of matter: earth, water, air, fire, and the heavenly aether. This idea persisted for more than 2,000 years, and plagued the countless alchemists who tried to strike it rich by transmuting earth into gold.

Coincidentally, it was also an alchemist who unseated the ideas of Aristotle from their throne. Robert Boyle, the famed “father” of chemistry, abandoned the classic elements in favor of the idea that all matter was composed of particles. This revolutionary idea led to one of the most explosive periods in the history of science, including Sir Isaac Newton’s formulation of classical mechanics.

The particle was now the king of the scientific universe, and it would reign for another 150 years until Scottish scientist James Clerk Maxwell introduced electromagnetic waves to the equation.

Together, particles and waves became the known building blocks of all matter. Particles served as the individual bricks, as matter existing at a single point in space. Electromagnetic waves made up the mortar holding it all together, as energy dissipating everywhere in space as waves.

Separating matter into both particles and waves made predictions easier for physicists because they could easily describe the behavior of particles and waves. But nothing comes easy in physics, and the theory was quickly flipped on its head.

Early in the 20th century, the famous double-slit experiment showed that particles and waves weren’t nearly as distinct as we previously thought. The experiment revealed that particles, at times, could act like waves, and light could sometimes act like particles.

Around the same time minds were exploding over the wave-particle duality of matter, Albert Einstein was formulating his theory of general relativity, which describes how warping the fabric of space and time causes gravity. Together, the discoveries shaped the course of modern physics, but the connections between the two phenomena remain unclear.

The Fragment of Energy
“Using newer mathematical tools, my colleague and I have demonstrated a new theory that may accurately describe the universe. Instead of basing the theory on the warping of space and time, we considered that there could be a building block that is more fundamental than the particle and the wave,” Silverberg writes.

He and Eischen looked for a solution that had features of both particles and waves. They wanted to find a building block that was both concentrated like a particle and spread out like a wave. Their answer is what they call a fragment of energy.

The fragment of energy is a lot like stars in a distant galaxy. From afar, a galaxy looks like a bright glow of light radiating outwards. But on closer inspection, astronomers can resolve individual stars making up the galaxy. In the same sense, the fragment of energy represents a concentration of energy that flows and dissipates outward, away from the center.

With their new building block, the scientists formulated a new set of equations to solve physics problems. They tested their theory on two problems solved by Einstein more than a century ago.

Einstein’s theory of general relativity was confirmed by two observations made by astronomers. The first was a tiny annual shift in the orbit of Mercury. Einstein accurately predicted that the curvature of spacetime caused by the mass of the sun would cause Mercury’s orbit to wobble over time. The second was the bending of light as it passes across warped space and time near to the sun.

“If our new theory was to have a chance at replacing the particle and the wave with the presumably more fundamental fragment, we would have to be able to solve these problems with our theory, too,” Silverberg writes.

To solve the Mercury problem, Silverberg and Eischen modeled the sun as a massive fragment of energy, with Mercury as a smaller fragment of energy orbiting around it. In the bending of light problem, the sun was modeled identically, but the light was modeled as a massless point traveling at the speed of light (a photon). After calculating the paths of the moving fragments of energy, the researchers got the same answers as Einstein.

The solutions show how effective their new building block can be at modeling the behavior of matter from the micro to macroscopic scale. Although their formulation may not exactly change physics like the discoveries of Maxwell and Einstein, the theory could make the wave-particle duality of matter more intuitive, and give a new way of thinking about the universe.


11 posted on 12/13/2020 12:18:20 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Just as I was getting comfortable with string and quantum, they throw this at us?

God gives glimpses but not the complete picture.


16 posted on 12/13/2020 12:25:58 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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Once again P.M. demonstrates it’s spiral down the moron’s black hole towards the idiocy singularity...


20 posted on 12/13/2020 12:32:22 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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never crossing each other, and with no beginning or end point.

And are the autumn leaves turning to the color of her hair? Windmills of Your Mind/Steve McQueen cool glider action

22 posted on 12/13/2020 12:40:50 PM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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The authors suggest thinking of energy as lines that enter and exit a region of space, never crossing each other, and with no beginning or end point.

Sounds a bit like God

24 posted on 12/13/2020 12:42:37 PM PST by FatherofFive (Go to the gym. Go to the range. Winter is here)
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For the Electric/Plasma Universe Ping List members’ consideration, a new theory of flowing energy particles proposed by two engineers. —PING!

Thanks to Gray_Whiskers for posting the Original Article from Popular Mechanics.


Clear Example of a Birkeland Current
"Z" Pinch with Symmetrical Plasmids
seen in Hubble Telescope View of
The Twin Jet Nebula
ELECTRIC/PLASMA UNIVERSE PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe/Plasma Ping List, Freepmail me.

26 posted on 12/13/2020 12:47:26 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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Publish or perish.


30 posted on 12/13/2020 1:14:40 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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The mantra you might normally hear from your yoga instructor could be an entirely new way of looking at the universe.

Everything in the universe from thoughts to chairs, from skin to emotions, has a certain amount of energy. Problems are created by adding or subtracting energy from a thought, emotion, or state of consciousness.

32 posted on 12/13/2020 1:41:39 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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“New Theory Casually Upends Space and Time”

Yay! I’m 21 again...but this time with some experience about Life so I can avoid my Ex! ;)


41 posted on 12/13/2020 2:42:07 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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43 posted on 12/13/2020 2:45:42 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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bttt


52 posted on 12/13/2020 4:25:24 PM PST by thinden
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Go ahead, put me on, but you might want to see if there is a String Theory or APOD list that might also work.


61 posted on 12/14/2020 7:35:41 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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Its too late for me to try to read and understand.

However, looking at the the Roots of Science in Ancient Greece we find:

Panta rhei (”everything flows”)

Heraclitus is also credited with the phrase panta rhei (πάντα ῥεῖ; “everything flows”).[108] This famous aphorism that is used to characterize his thought comes from the neoplatonist Simplicius of Cilicia,[109] and from Plato’s Cratylus.[110] The word rhei (”to stream”) (as in rheology) and is etymologically related to Rhea according to Plato’s Cratylus.[111][i]

On Heraclitus’ teachings on flux, Burnet writes:

Fire burns continuously and without interruption. It is always consuming fuel and always liberating smoke. Everything is either mounting upwards to serve as fuel, or sinking down wards after having nourished the flame. It follows that the whole of reality is like an ever-flowing stream, and that nothing is ever at rest for a moment. The substance of the things we see is in constant change. Even as we look at them, some of the stuff of which they are composed has already passed into something else, while fresh stuff has come into them from another source. This is usually summed up, appropriately enough, in the phrase “All things are flowing” (panta rei), though this does not seem to be a quotation from Herakleitos. Plato, however, expresses the idea quite clearly. “Nothing ever is, everything is becoming”; “All things are in motion like streams”; “All things are passing, and nothing abides”; “Herakleitos says somewhere that all things pass and naught abides; and, comparing things to the current of a river, he says you cannot step twice into the same stream” (cf. fr. 41). these are the terms in which he describes the system.[112]

So there in the beginning the proto scientists were talking about “Flow” and something like the conservation of energy and matter.

Thanks for posting! Good night!


62 posted on 12/14/2020 7:50:44 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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