Posted on 12/12/2020 8:43:39 AM PST by bassmaner
Question for all FReepers, especially those with a medical background:
Why are people continuing to die from (or more likely WITH) Covid when there are therapeutics available? PDJT had it, got over it, and credited a drug called Regeneron with his recovery, calling it nothing short of a 'cure'.
Yet we continue to wring are hands over the availability of a 'vaccine' that may or may not be effective.
Ok, I know the politics behind this -- if Trump says positive things about it, the 'Rats and the media -- but I repeat myself -- immediately pooh-pooh it. IMO, any politician who withholds or pooh-poohs a potential therapeutic and is complicit in restricting access to it is guilty of (at the very least) manslaughter for every death that said therapeutic could have prevented.
That's the real tragedy of this entire Chinese-caused disaster that has befallen the entire planet.
What are they doing for people when they are fist diagnosed? It appears they just wait to see if they get worse before they do anything. To my way of thinking the earlier the treatment the better. Hcq and or Ivermectin would be a lot more effective if used at the earliest like right after a positive test. What do they recommend after people after a positive test? Do they tell them to take high doses of vitamin c, vitamin d and zinc?
I only see hospitalized patients. I use vit d, zinc. pepcid, anticoagulants, remdesivir and decadron sometimes with convalescent plasma. I cannot say what the outpatient people are using
Short answer is timing. If they aren’t treated BEFORE it starts to get out of hand it’s too late.
Long answer, stupid politics is killing people. If Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin were started before or soon after symptoms start there would be a much better chance of a good outcome. If not started until after hospitalized it’s probably too late. I do see zpaks given as soon as symptoms start, sometimes steroids also, but doctors are all afraid to prescribe hydroxychloroquine. I also hear stories of testing and diagnosing covid, then sending the patient home with nothing. Again, by the time those get bad enough to be hospitalized the meds, zinc, hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, & azithromycin are too late and you’re left to hope steroids help.
The antibody cocktails are now more available, but they must be started soon also.
Thanks. My thoughts are they should be advising people to do a lot of that before you see them. What would you tell your cousin to do if they called you and said the just tested positive before severe symptoms?
Our own Democrat Leaders funded the Chinese Wuhan lab while simultaneously warming of a virus coming for 10 years. Then they outlaw known protections against Coronavirus like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. We can only deal with the Chinese after we deal with Demoncrats
Thanks, Jim Noble for your post— i’ve cited (post #15 here) the Marik Protocol E. VA med school, which has some preventative utility in the first stages in our experience. Blocking the infection from entering lung lining cells, coupled with distancing, N-95 mask, good sleep and the other immune support prevention.
Aside from Marik, have been following the MedCram Pulmonologist CME regimen covered by Dr. Schuelte in CA (the MedCram CME series. #45 on... you tub), and added/changed hypertension regimen from ACE-inhibitor to ACE-blocker (valsartan, losartan). There have been posts (one from a pastor who daily visits later stage COVID patients in his ministry) who have not come down with Covid at all- having been exposed to several of his pastorate who died of it.
This seems to be effective against any coronavirus, as in influenza(s)— because they all have S-Proteins (the spikes on the ball of the virion(s)) which infect by the same S-Protein/ACE2 receptors of the lung modality. Covid having the added genome giving it much nastier than influenza effects.
Physician colleagues report the similar clinical progressions, and have to say it is rarely without co-morbidity in the known higher risk people ( over 65, cardio-pulmonary, congestive heart disease, obese, leading to pneumonia to which covid comes in from exposure, etc.)
Have kept our 95 year old kin, in and out of needed rehab post hip fracture, from acquiring covid before and during rehab (the center being extremely good w/quarantine isolation and rehab the first 2 weeks) and when back home, maintaining the supplements from the MedCram suggested regimen.
Thanks again.
Lots of those online pharmacies are scams... fyi
Hmm, I just checked several and they all forwarded to Happy Family Farm out of Canada. They have secure site logos at the bottom of the page but none are clickable to verify.
There’s always amazon.
The numbers are inflated. Orangeman bad.
Expect an announcement a day after Biden mumbles through his swearing in.
“Biden overturns Trump GOP ban on HCQ saving millions.”
I’ve watched the Marik, MATH+ Protocol.
Ivermectin is the drug to take!
I wonder if I started feeling ill, got a positive covid test from my doctor, if I could get her to write a prescription for Ivermectin and if she’s not able to do that legally, could she put in the record that I have scabies (which is one condition Ivermectin is used for)?
Happy Family Farm out of Canada.
They are legit, have ordered from them before and just ordered ivermectin the other day
I order from them all the time, antibiotics I also purchased HCQ at the beginning of this mess, I get retinol for my face which is better than a face lift very legit company!!!
The name is actually Happy Family Store I order from them all the time!!
Imho— a medical Arts physician would do so. What stands in the way generally are the Tort Lawyers of medical lawsuit land. The way to approach the discussion is goodpersonal doctor-patient relationship which is (or was) sacrosanct supposedly as the lawyer-client one. Had a little scabies? covered in the indications for Ivermectin.
It’s called the hydroxychloriquine cocktail.
The covid reset is to eliminate as many useless eaters as possible.So far the plan is working as designed by the CCP. The next step requires a population reduction of 90%. This will be accomplished through natural means.
Cool, thanks. I was a little concerned when several different domain names all forwarded to the HFS.
As a preventative I use quinine via diet tonic water, zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, and plenty of sunshine and fresh air.
Not so much sunshine now as it is winter where I am at.
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