Posted on 12/12/2020 8:43:39 AM PST by bassmaner
Question for all FReepers, especially those with a medical background:
Why are people continuing to die from (or more likely WITH) Covid when there are therapeutics available? PDJT had it, got over it, and credited a drug called Regeneron with his recovery, calling it nothing short of a 'cure'.
Yet we continue to wring are hands over the availability of a 'vaccine' that may or may not be effective.
Ok, I know the politics behind this -- if Trump says positive things about it, the 'Rats and the media -- but I repeat myself -- immediately pooh-pooh it. IMO, any politician who withholds or pooh-poohs a potential therapeutic and is complicit in restricting access to it is guilty of (at the very least) manslaughter for every death that said therapeutic could have prevented.
That's the real tragedy of this entire Chinese-caused disaster that has befallen the entire planet.
I’ve wondered this myself. Why are so many dying when we hear regularly about how effective certain drugs are....are they being allowed to die intentionally?
I still think it’s amazing that India, with its immense population, has one of the lowest death rates. I suspect that is because so many are on the anti-malaria drugs.
Most if the people dying would be dying of flu or cold or other infection because they are very old and have health problems already.
The treatment Trump got is not yet approved or available.
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The same goes for Uganda.
I know it won't make a difference to you, BUT
I saw my first patient, a woman from Wuhan, on January 23. I have done nothing but COVID since March.
It is not "more likely" that people are dying WITH COVID. Every COVID death that I have seen follows the same course with the same or similar clinical progressions and the same means of exit.
COVID is not Ebola, but it is certainly more - much more - dangerous than influenza.
Be careful out there.
therapeutics are actually being made available at a rate i have never seen before. the regeneron cocktail is in studies now the issue is with the gi i g of its use. some things are helpful at various stages of the disease abs useless or even harmful at other stages. It also takes time for manufacturing of a new drug to spool up to make millions of doses. We are
much better at treating covid now than we were a few months ago and i expect that to continue to improve. remember it usually takes a decade to bring a new drug to market and we have only been at this 9 months or so with several new treatments in the pipeline already
with the timing of its use...
Ivermectin has also been discussed as an effective “cure”, as well as an effective preventative (Prophylactic).
The Regeneron antibody cocktail just received emergency use authorization a few weeks ago (Nov 21st?), to treat Covid-19 in high-risk patients with mild to moderate disease.
The Government ponied up the money to buy a bunch of treatment doses (300K), to provide at no cost to ill patients, and started distributing them shortly after it was approved (23 Nov).
So that treatment option is pretty new.
It seemed to work real well for Rudy Guiliani.
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The old, old story.
Follow the money. We’ve had effective therapeutics from day one - the hydroxychloroquine cocktail is just one. Cost is negligible, efficacy is almost 100%. So the boughten bureaucrats talked it down. My home state of Ohio actually BANNED it for a while. Gotta sell Remdesivir at $$$$$ per dose. Now it’s a highly questionable “vaccine” that will make the produced billions, and may only provide immunity for six months.
Thanks for your response - makes sense, with all of the ins and outs of approval, availability, demand, etc.
produceR
It’s the same amount of people dying every year and that’s been proven. The “RONA” has made no impact on the normal daily deaths.
Regeneron is available... for no charge. Physicians know this, as well as other parts of the Marik Protocol from E. Virginia Medical School.
Regeneron, the antibody plasma... everything the Pres got, is available to patients. Ask for them.
The Protocol (one of them, followed in most places):
Add to this: Azithromycin, HCQ (yes, it works based on timing), D3, Vitamin C (IV push dose):
And the leftist power grab!
You are correct— the anti- S proteins (the spikes on any... ANY coronavirus) are defeated in their biologic infection modality of trying to link up with Angiotensin Converting Enzyme-2 (ACE-2) receptors on lung lining cells. The S-Protein spikes are the key, and the ‘lock’ is the receptor— which allows the messenger RNA into a cell from the virus virion.
Quinine, synthetic (HCQ) aids in blocking the ACE-2 receptors so this cannot happen. At the daily dosage rate commonly used in India for a huge malarial exposed populaton— there is very little chance of viral infection by this means. Even in the very dense (non-social distanced for certain) populations of India. It has been noted the low death rates in high malarial areas of the world who take built up doses of anti-malarials. And... Ivermectin as well.
Too many variables. Some people have other conditions and this virus nails them. You’d have to check case by case and quit with the graphs and Vietnam us versus them death scores.
regeneron is only available in my area in a limited number of research studies. it is not generally available yet
That's good to know, but does that imply that if a person doesn't ask, either because he/she is incapacitated or simply unaware, that the docs will just let him/her die without offering the treatment?
IMO, such treatments should have been the primary focus of 'Operation Warp Speed', and the vaccines should have taken lower priority.
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