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This Week's Sky at a Glance, December 4 – 12 [Jupiter-Saturn very close together, Mars very bright
Sky & Telescope Magazine ^ | December 4, 2020 | Alan MacRobert

Posted on 12/06/2020 1:07:06 PM PST by ETL

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FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4 [basically the same as today (Sunday), tomorrow, and next few days]

Bright Jupiter and Saturn are closer together now (1.8° apart).

Jupiter and Saturn are closing toward their record-breaking conjunction on December 21st, when they will appear only 0.1° apart.

That’s about the width of a toothpick at arm’s length!

https://skyandtelescope.org/observing/this-weeks-sky-at-a-glance-december-4-12-2/

(Excerpt) Read more at skyandtelescope.org ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: astronomy; iss; jupiter; mars; saturn; spacestation
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To: Uncle Miltie

Sorry, don’t know. But what you’re asking is basically the same as, “during which month of the year does the sun set along the most southerly part of the horizon?”. Because full moons always rise at sunset, since the two are on opposite sides of the sky during full moon phases.


21 posted on 12/06/2020 5:44:35 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: zadox

Sorry, wasn’t fully thinking in my last post (not sure I am now!). Had just gotten home and was preparing to eat, etc.

The day in which the sun sets along the most southerly portion of the horizon would be the shortest day of the year, or darn close to it. And since full moons always rise at sun set when the moon is in its proper position in its orbit round earth, ie, completely opposite the sun, or 180 degs apart in the sky, you would need to now both the date of the shortest day of the year AND the full moon phase nearest to that date.

Shortest day of the year = Dec 21, 2020

Next full moon = Dec 29, 2020

So I guess the answer to your question is Tuesday, Dec 29th.

That is, unless I don’t have something precisely right here.


22 posted on 12/06/2020 6:30:37 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

One would think so, but now near the solstice, the sun rises and sets most southerly. Yet the full moon was rising in the North West in late November.


23 posted on 12/06/2020 6:51:32 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; zadox

Sorry (again!)

I meant my reply (Post #22) for “Uncle Miltie”, not “zadox”.


24 posted on 12/06/2020 7:02:40 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Rising in the north WEST?

Typo I assume. :)


25 posted on 12/06/2020 7:09:06 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

North EAST.

Bad brain.

Nonetheless, I can’t figure out why it isn’t roughly in plane with the sun.


26 posted on 12/06/2020 7:12:59 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

It’s coming to me now!! When the sun is setting south of due west, the line that the moon and planets lie upon (the ecliptic) would be rising NORTH of due east, as you observed.
This is because the earth rotates on a TILTED axis.


27 posted on 12/06/2020 7:31:22 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

...and so the full Moon would rise most SOUTHERLY around the time of the LONGEST day of the year. ie, beginning of SUMMER.


28 posted on 12/06/2020 7:33:44 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

Perfect! Thanks!


29 posted on 12/06/2020 7:56:31 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Biden: Senile, pedophile, grifter, extortionist, thief.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
You're welcome. I think I got it right.

The moon also wanders a bit north and south in terms of rises and sets because its orbit is roughly 5 degrees off the ecliptic plane of the solar system. The ecliptic is orientated precisely east-west only during the 2 equinoxes, spring and fall.



Below, lunar orbit inclination to ecliptic (ie, plane of solar system)





30 posted on 12/06/2020 8:43:58 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

So, where do I look at midnight? Mars is now high in the western sky, bright and orange. Off to the left (south)there are a couple of bright stars Are those the ones I’m looking for?


31 posted on 12/06/2020 8:59:24 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: gw-ington

Is that a big piglet or a midsize hog?


32 posted on 12/06/2020 9:01:16 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

I wrote in my 2nd post above, “about halfway across the sky from Jupiter and Saturn toward the east is the planet Mars.”

So Jupiter and Saturn are/were about halfway across the sky to the EAST of Mars. In other words, they have long set.


33 posted on 12/06/2020 9:22:37 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

Thanks. I’ll have to look for them a lot earlier! Being a night owl may not be bst sometimes.


34 posted on 12/06/2020 9:41:57 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Good idea. And the Jupiter-Saturn show only gets better and better for the next couple weeks. By Dec 16th they be closest to one another, within a speck of sky about the size of a full moon!


35 posted on 12/06/2020 9:49:25 PM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: JimRed

It is only during the spring and fall equinoxes that the full moon rises (precisely) due east and the sun sets (precisely) due west.


36 posted on 12/07/2020 5:32:09 AM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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To: V_TWIN


37 posted on 12/07/2020 5:55:25 AM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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