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Zelenko Zinc Hydroxychloroquine Doxy or Zith for advanced COVID cases
Free Republic ^ | 11.18.20 | Freedom56v2

Posted on 11/18/2020 6:26:11 PM PST by Freedom56v2

Daughter's friend's mom is in ICU with COVID-19. She is not on ventilator, getting oxygen but going to use feeding tube because when she eats, oxygen goes down. She is early 60s...I don't know of any co-morbidities.

She is too late to use Rendesevir...that could have been used 10 days ago...

Anyone know if Zelenko protocol can be used for a late-case but prior to ventilator...

Any other thoughts or suggestions??

AND PRAYERS FOR ANN and HER FAMILY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: covid; covid19; health; medicin; zelenkoprotocol
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Very much appreciate input.
1 posted on 11/18/2020 6:26:12 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2

Why not? Put in her “food”


2 posted on 11/18/2020 6:28:46 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Freedom56v2

A lot of Drs on the Texags site if you want to ask there. You have to sign up with a phone number, though.

Your friend should ask about dexamethasone.

It’s a steroid,.


3 posted on 11/18/2020 6:29:14 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: goodnesswins

Not sure what you mean...

I am very concerned—I know the woman and want to help if I can.


4 posted on 11/18/2020 6:31:19 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: RummyChick

Thanks RummyChick...I was hoping you might ante in on this.


5 posted on 11/18/2020 6:31:55 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2
I would start by reading Dr. Paul Marik's "EVMS CRITICAL CARE COVID-19 MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL." He discusses the appropriate treatments for each stage of the disease.

Here is the summary chart. She is probably at the anti-inflammatory stage where she needs anticoagulants and steroids.


6 posted on 11/18/2020 6:32:22 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Freedom56v2

Prayers for Ann and her family!


7 posted on 11/18/2020 6:34:54 PM PST by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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To: Freedom56v2

Also, there was the Dr or intern..cant remember...that used Glutathione to help save his mother.

And of course, what some Drs will call wacky and not believe in it..the Mega Dosing of Vitamin C using the Marik protocol

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf


8 posted on 11/18/2020 6:35:13 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Freedom56v2

steroids
Dr. Bartlett of west Texas


9 posted on 11/18/2020 6:38:28 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war )
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To: Freedom56v2
Look at the "ICAM Protocol," too. You will notice it is very similar to the EVMS Protocol. It does not include Ivermectin which is surprising.

Advent Health Ocala’s ICAM Protocol Takes on COVID-19: Clinician Drives Real World Evidence & Breakthrough

ICAM is an acronym that stands for:
“Immunosupport” and includes Vitamin C and zinc to help boost the immune system;
“Corticosteroid,” Methylprednisolone, which can reduce inflammation in the lungs for augmenting breathing;
“Anticoagulant” such as Enoxaparin, a blood thinner that can help stop blood clotting seen in more severe cases of COVID-19;
“Macrolide”, such as Azithromycin, which is often called a “Z-Pac”, and is an antibiotic used to mitigate probability of pneumonia.

In summary, the ICAM protocol is a combination of 1) Vitamin C & zinc, 2) corticosteroid 3) anticoagulant and 4) macrolide. Each treatment was considered and selected for its contribution to a problem associated with COVID-19.


In essence, this is ratifying the EVMS Protocol.
10 posted on 11/18/2020 6:39:14 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Freedom56v2
If I understand correctly, Hydroxlchoroquine plus zinc is more of a preventive. Ivermectin might be helpful.

Dr. Chris Martenson on Ivermectin

It's not in the recommended protocols. But it's cheap and supposedly clears the virus in 4 days. Clears the virus in vitro within 24 hours.

He talks about Ivermectin at 12:00 into the video. He talks about Hydrocholoquine at 7:00 minutes into the video. He calls Hydroxylcholoqyine by something else because youtube will censor him if he says the name.

And I hate the title he gave to this video, "use this one weird trick", but Dr. Martenson has had some great information throughout this pandemic. And he's also a little sarcastic at times in this video.

11 posted on 11/18/2020 6:41:58 PM PST by DannyTN (<P><a href="https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3902132/posts">)
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To: Freedom56v2

this is a thread talking a little about treatments

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3156505

Marcus gets the patients that are circling the drain as they say...in other words...BAD


12 posted on 11/18/2020 6:42:29 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: gas_dr

Ping!


13 posted on 11/18/2020 6:44:04 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Freedom56v2
Version 2 of this paper was released just yesterday: Efficacy and Safety of Ivermectin for Treatment and prophylaxis of COVID-19 Pandemic (Version 2), by Ahmed Elgazzar, Basma Hany, Shaimaa Abo Youssef, Mohy Hafez, Hany Moussa, Abdelaziz eltaweel, November 17, 2020.

"This study aims to evaluate the anti-parasitic medication efficacy "Ivermectin" plus standard care (Azithromycin, vitamin C, Zinc, Lactoferrin & Acetylcystein & prophylactic or therapeutic anticoagulation if D-dimer > 1000) in the treatment of mild/moderate and severely ill cases with COVID 19 infection..."

Conclusion: Addition of Ivermectin to standard care is very effective drug for treatment of COVID-19 patients with significant reduction in mortality compared to Hydroxychloroquine plus standard treatment only. Early use of Ivermectin is very useful for controlling COVID 19 infections; prophylaxis and improving cytokines storm

14 posted on 11/18/2020 6:46:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: Freedom56v2

I mean why couldn’t a mixture of the supplements or drugs be added to her food, or given via IV...you may want to listen to others re:high vit c ...but find a good naturapath...most Dr’s just do drugs.


15 posted on 11/18/2020 6:47:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: RummyChick

Arthritis drug cuts COVID-19 deaths in hospitalized patients by two-thirds: study

https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/drug-cuts-covid-19-deaths-in-hospitalized-patients-by-two-thirds-study/amp/

baricitinib but probably wont get that one. does mention

dexamethasone


16 posted on 11/18/2020 6:48:05 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: goodnesswins

My family is instructed to get me Vitamin C by hook or by crook ...meaning...do it...might be hindered if they arent allowed to visit

but I will be taking it with me to the hospital.


17 posted on 11/18/2020 6:49:53 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Freedom56v2

That paper I cited is a PREPRINT and does not discuss a Randomized Clinical Trial. It has been criticized because it is an observational paper and because it makes mention of the discredited Surgisphere. So use with caution.


18 posted on 11/18/2020 6:51:48 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ("Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out" -- David Horowitz)
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To: goodnesswins

I don’t know...Not sure exactly what state she is in...

Actually a family member is in charge of COVID-19 unit in hospital in which she is staying?!?! Hmmm

Good news just reported tho her oxygen has improved slightly over past 2 day...

Chest X-ray is not good :(


19 posted on 11/18/2020 6:53:45 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Freedom56v2

Is she getting loads if vit d3 and Vit C? Family member shd know her d3 level...most covid patient’s are low and need D3 badly. Other nurses here have talked about it.


20 posted on 11/18/2020 6:56:24 PM PST by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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