I’m a native New Yorker conflicted over leaving. Here’s why I’m doing it anyway(Why one lifelong New Yorker decided to deploy the nuclear option: A move to Jersey)

New York Post ^ | September 10, 2020 | Sachi Ezura

[nickcarraway]

I am leaving New York next week. Add me to the list. Another tick in the “New York is dead” column. Or maybe in the “Cowards who can’t wait out the pandemic” column. Wag your finger at me or shake your head in disgust. Tut tut. Tsk tsk. Don’t worry. I’m already doing it to myself.

Let me backtrack. I was born at Mount Sinai on the Upper East Side. I spent my childhood in 20 different apartments across the Upper West Side and beyond, shuttling between my mom’s and my dad’s. My dad moved to Connecticut, then Montreal, then Japan. I switched from attending private school on the Upper West Side to a magnet school on the Upper East, where I met most of my best friends. I went to college in Boston (okay, fine, Harvard), immediately moved back home after college, then set up shop in the various neighborhoods young people flock to across New York — East Village, Murray Hill, Williamsburg.

[DeplorablePaul]

New York creates snobs. They’ll put up with anything: high taxes, cost of living, crime, progressive politics, etc, to be able say I’m a New Yorker. My daughter lives in NYC. I remind her, once in a while, that’s she being a snob when she looks down her nose at our low country ways here in SC. I also remind her that she found comfortable refuge here among normal people with guns.

[RoosterRedux]

As a former NYer, I wouldn't say that moving to Joisey is exactly leaving NYC. That's just moving to the burbs.

Moving to Wyoming is what I would call leaving NYC.

As an aside, I love NYC, but it is going to take a big hit from (1) bad politicians, (2) COVID in general, and (3) 5G internet which permits employees and students to almost live anywhere. Telecommuting wouldn't have been an issue except, of course, for the COVID lockdown giving employers, employees, and students some familiarity with it.

[TalBlack]

The authors point is how innately hip and cool and broadminded and superior she is due to proximity of the East and Hudson rivers and how she will magically maintain this state even though she is now bailing out of Oz.

The adolescent sillyness here is embarrassing.

[AmericanMermaid]

Lol! It actually is different, though politically, it’s the same nonsense. Liberal jerks running the place into the ground is the same on either side of the Hudson.

But I’m with you. So glad we moved from New Jersey years ago and made North Carolina our home. Christmas lights on houses, Pinterest and a sweet, slower life are my cup of tea, thank you very much.

[JonPreston]

I never regretted leaving NYC and have never went back even for a visit.

Same here, so when I call NYC a cesspool, I say it having been born and raised there.

[mewzilla]

After reading this, I feel sorry for NJ.

[Lockbox]

Whoo, thought they may be moving to Texas or Florida, that was close. Why? Because they will still be voting Democratic all the way. What does it take to convince these Libs? The people they elected are so BAD that they are “forced to leave” yet will still be under the incompetent Democratic leadership of NJ.

Almost like a German leaving German to escape Hilter only to move to Italy to live under Mussolini! That is Liberal logic in action!

[anton]

Most New yorkers just don’t know any better. Their parents drank the Cool Aid and they don’t re-examine anything. At its best (and I have done business and vacation in NYC for 50 years, NYC is a difficult place to live. Poor everything, from filthy cabs, mediocre foods to tired theater. You think you can get a good corn beef sand in NYC? Try Cleveland. 100 times better. One time about 20 years ago I got a job offer from one of my co-counsel in NYC and on that week long trip I asked every person I saw how many plays, concerts, restaurants, parks they visited. Almost no one goes anywhere. As Yogi said, because its too crowded. It is. Wait in line for 45 minutes to get an ice cream or put newspaper down so you don’t have to sit on someone’s gum and you will want to get back to that tiny apartment with bad a/c on the UWS. Do they make a little more? Sure, but not if you count the four hours per day they have to cope with the City.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

For many New Yorkers, moving to New Jersey is worse than throwing yourself in a woodchipper...

I got out as soon as I could afford a tank of gas.

[SkyPilot]

The taxes in NJ suck, as do the gun laws, and liberal politics.

However, it ain't all de Blasio's hell hole.

Some counties in the state are solid Republican, and much of NJ is a lot more desirable than NYC these days.

My son recently purchased a home a suburban area of another state on the east coast. The housing market there was nuts. A home would go on the market, and there would be 25 offers, half of them cash and well above asking price.

The market for homes in suburban and rural areas of the country has become extremely competitive.

People want OUT of the cities. Same thing in the rich North Shore of Chicago, or in Seattle, Portland, and other cities. Go to Zillow and search if you don't believe me.

You're nuts if you live in St. Louis - that place will explode into a racial powder keg soon. Probably Antifa's and BLM's next target.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

“New York”?
Never heard of it.

I found myself as a civilian sitting with some other civilians eating in a mess in the western Aleutians, around 2003. To make conversation one guy, a retired Army NCO and civilian contractor, started a conversation by having everyone tell the group where they grew up. One, by one, we heard, Austin, Texas, Cayce Iowa, Phoenix, Arizona. When they got to me, I said "New York", which was met by blank stares. "It's near an airport. I'm sure you've heard of it."

[ScottinVA]

What does a move to New Jersey solve?

[21twelve]

I worked in the town with the Red Mill for eight years. The first half in a cottage about 20 minutes away in the woods. The second half about 5 minutes away in a condo in the woods.

Still pretty country out there, and still a lot of country folks. Although getting less so every year. Even when I was there 30+ years ago in the old cottage, would hear folks with their new McMansions in the country complain. “Something just MUST be done about the smells from that cow pasture!”

[freedumb2003]

God, I had no idwa new yorkers were so full of themselves.

They isolate in ethnic enclaves and then ask whether suburbs will provide diversity? Cool? More like insubstantial arrogance.

Oh I did know Pinterest was a rural, suburban thing. But I have never used it, so who knows?

[Recompennation]

Out of the fire and into the frying pan Beat me to it, 🙂

[mewzilla]

The couple’s contempt for suburban housewives will not go over well.

[American Infidel]

This couple is welcome to buy my house in NJ, especially if we can do the deal directly with no realtor commission involved.

If my NYC employer allows my job function to continue to operate remotely going forward, there is no reason for me to stay here. Looking forward to escaping NJ soon.

[McGruff]

I feel ill after reading this NY city liberal snowflake’s whining. Probably never worked a day in her life.

[C210N]

As a Conservative, if I had to live around NYC, there is a place to consider: the South-east corner of Jersey City.

In an environment where neighborhoods change from block to block, this section of Jersey City has single-family homes and modern high-rises that overlook the Statue of Liberty. Walking distance to PATH or a 5-minute ferry to Manhattan. Even some greenery, for having a pup.

In short, while NYC is hell... and much of Jersey adjacent to NYC hell as well, if forced by job or family to be there, consider this section of Jersey City.

[trebb]

Or a sign of how bad NY really is these days -when jersey becomes an option, it has to be some serious ju-ju.