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Cryptic Nebra sky disk might not be so ancient after all, say scientists
CNET ^ | 09/04/2020 | Amanda Kooser

Posted on 09/05/2020 7:33:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Though open to interpretation, the bronze disk appears to depict the moon, stars and possibly the sun.

A duo of archaeologists from Goethe University Frankfurt and Ludwig-Maximilian University in Munich took a fresh look at where and how the disk was discovered. The disk was found during an illegal excavation in 1999 near Nebra, Germany, along with a trove of Bronze Age items, including swords and jewelry. If the disk's age matched that of the other items, it would be about 3,600 years old.

A release from Goethe University this week calls out the "vague information given by the looters." The researchers put on their detective hats, investigated the circumstances of the find and concluded that "the Sky Disk cannot belong together with the other finds which seemed to facilitate the dating of the world-famous object in the first place."

The archaeologists said the artifacts supposedly found with the disk are not strong enough evidence to date the piece to the Early Bronze Age. Instead, the researchers suggest the disk's motifs are a match for the Iron Age, making it 1,000 years younger than assumed.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnet.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; bronzeage; godsgravesglyphs; ironage; nebraskydisk

1 posted on 09/05/2020 7:33:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv
Might the disc itself be a hoax?


2 posted on 09/05/2020 7:35:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Bad link.


3 posted on 09/05/2020 7:38:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: BenLurkin

Fifteen years ago, a German already suggested it was a hoax. I think the experts are still out on this one.


4 posted on 09/05/2020 7:38:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; All

https://www.cnet.com/news/cryptic-nebra-sky-disk-might-not-be-so-ancient-after-all-say-scientists/


5 posted on 09/05/2020 7:40:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: pepsionice

I find it provocative that the illuminated side of the crescent moon is opposite the sun rather than on the same side. One would think that someone observant enough to notice the Pleiades would be familiar with which side of the moon the sun was on?


6 posted on 09/05/2020 8:48:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: BenLurkin

One more thing our witless chillin know nothing about. It’s a hubcap! This one is right up there next to stick shifts! AN ALIEN TECH!


7 posted on 09/05/2020 9:19:41 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah,,,those names on the disc date much later than the bronze age...

;]


8 posted on 09/05/2020 9:22:10 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ...
Here are the other GGG topics introduced since the previous Digest ping:

9 posted on 09/05/2020 9:46:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

10 posted on 09/05/2020 9:47:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; BenLurkin

Nebra Sky Disk Could Be Younger than First Thought
Sep 4, 2020 by News Staff / Source
http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/nebra-sky-disk-08816.html
The Nebra sky disk. Image credit: Dbachmann / CC BY-SA 3.0.
http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge7/image_8816e-Nebra-Sky-Disk.jpg


11 posted on 09/05/2020 9:49:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; BenLurkin

It’s nice to feel young again!

;o]

‘Face


12 posted on 09/05/2020 11:16:29 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If Satan reminds you of yout past, remind him of his future! ~~ FB ~~)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Just an observation. The so called “primitive” people who made instruments like these relied on them to regulate such vital timing as planting, or gathering and laying up stores for winter. They may have also used them for timing celebrations or festivals worshiping the gods. Therefore they display remarkable accuracy. Anything less would be useless. Modern fakes tend to feed into the notion that the primitives couldn’t make basic astronomical observations, and seem to me to be deliberately “crude”.


13 posted on 09/05/2020 4:53:33 PM PDT by 75thOVI (Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.)
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To: BenLurkin

So what does it signify?


14 posted on 09/05/2020 6:26:20 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero

Looks like a hoax to me.


15 posted on 09/05/2020 6:31:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Monkey Face
At this point, it'll take something older to get that reaction from me. :^) It's not very large, but it appears to have been nailed on the edge, probably a shield boss or something like that..

16 posted on 09/05/2020 10:44:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I looked on Etsy, and they have one as a jar opener. Cleverly cute, but I wouldn’t use it to open jars. I’d probably put it in an embroidery hoop and hang it on a wall by my desk. Something cool, anyway. But a JAR OPENER?? *sheesh*

;o]

‘Face


17 posted on 09/05/2020 10:59:25 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If Satan reminds you of yout past, remind him of his future! ~~ FB ~~)
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To: 75thOVI

Certainly Chaldean astronomers of the Second Millenium B.C. had a far more sophisticated knowledge of astronomy than most college graduates today, but that doesn’t seem to affect their vacuous chronological snobbery.


18 posted on 09/06/2020 6:15:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: BenLurkin; SunkenCiv
Hoax or not, it seems to me that it is not Ursa Major, but Draco that is depicted.

Big Dipper & Pleiades are on the same side of the sky; draco is opposite. Also, the dipper's handle curves the opposite direction from the bowl; and the bowl is less lozenge shaped. Lyra is also a better fit


19 posted on 09/06/2020 7:54:43 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: BenLurkin

The Nebra sky disk is a bronze disk of around 32 cm (12.6 inches) diameter and a mass of 2.2 kg, having a blue-green patina and inlaid with gold symbols.

20 posted on 09/08/2020 5:39:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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