Posted on 08/08/2020 9:47:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Question: Was it immoral to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Yesterday, August 6th, the world commemorated the 75th anniversary of America dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, thus commencing the “atomic age.” Seventy-five years later, the debate still rages on whether it was immoral for President Truman to authorize the use of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and then a second atomic bomb on Nagasaki three days later.
I believe that President Truman made the right decision, the moral decision and one that stands moral scrutiny and the test of history.
To properly evaluate the decision to “drop the bomb,” several critical factors must be considered. First, the Japanese were feverishly preparing to defend their home islands with the same fanatical ferocity with which they had defended Saipan, Okinawa, and Iwo Jima.
The American invasion of Imperial Japan was scheduled to begin in October 1945. The soldiers, sailors, and airmen preparing for that invasion had been told to expect 50% casualties. In the interest of full disclosure, my father was one of those young sailors (he was 24) and his commanding officer had told him 50% casualties were expected as he was training to be part of the first wave hitting the beach. If we had invaded Japan, I would have had a 50% chance of not being here since I was conceived while my mother and father were having a second honeymoon in Texas six months after Japan’s surrender.
It was also estimated that it would take at least 18 months to subdue Japan, with 500,000 American casualties and five million Japanese casualties after a street-by-street, house-by-house, room-by-room conflict across the length and breadth of the country.
In other words, America would have lost more people dead than she had lost in the entire war up until then (approximately 410,000) in Europe and the Pacific combined. And Japan would have been more devastated than Germany was by the end of the war in Europe.
So, if you subtract the approximately 250,000 people killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki (including those who died within a year from the effects of radiation poisoning), you could argue that dropping the first atomic bombs saved about 500,000 American lives and 4.75 million Japanese lives.
Also, we now know from captured Japanese war files that the dropping of the first atomic bombs saved the lives of a very special group of Americans. The Japanese authorities were preparing to summarily execute the 23,000 American POWs still in Japanese hands in order to free their guards to focus on repelling the American invasion (38% of American POWs had already died from the cruelty and the barbarity of their captors). The executions were scheduled to begin on August 17, 1945, just 8 days after Nagasaki was bombed. If America had not dropped the atomic bombs when they did, these 23,000 American POWs (soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen) would have been executed.
So, who bears the moral responsibility for the deaths at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The answer is the Japanese militarists who led their country to launch a sneak attack against the U.S. at Pearl Harbor in 1941. I am surprised in the still on-going discussions about moral responsibility that so few people take into account the fact that Japan attacked America, not the other way around.
In fact, I believe that if President Truman had not dropped the atomic bombs and thus ended the war, when the American people eventually discovered that so many of their loved ones (sons, fathers, husbands, brothers, uncles, nephews, etc.) had died during the bloody campaign to liberate Japan, they would have demanded the President’s impeachment and may have even demanded his trial for being responsible for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Americans.
Second, the impact of the atomic bombs had a great peacemaking impact on the post-World War II world. Atomic bombs were used for the first and only time in August 1945.
Some revisionist historians have continued to argue that the U.S. did not have to drop the atomic bombs because Japan would have surrendered anyway, after the Soviet Union entered the war on August the 8th. It should be noted that the Soviets entered the war after we had dropped the atomic bomb, something which they had not previously chosen to do between VE Day (May 8th) and Hiroshima on August 6th.
Could it be that the decision to drop the bomb forced the Soviets to declare war against Japan sooner than they would have done otherwise, lest they not be able to take over Manchuria and the northern part of Korea after the war? If the Soviets had come into the war against Japan and we had not dropped the bomb, would they have demanded an occupation zone in Tokyo and in the Home Islands, modeled after the Allied partition of Germany and Berlin into Soviet and Allied zones? How different, and how much more sad, the history of post-war Japan would have been had it been divided into East and West like Germany.
And, as Chris Wallace makes clear in his riveting new book Countdown 1945, when Truman told Stalin about the atom bomb at the Pottsdam Conference in July 1945, Stalin surprised Truman by his mild response. Stalin was interested, but he wasn’t surprised. The Soviets had a spy, Klaus Fuchs, in Los Alamos feeding America’s deepest atomic secrets straight to Moscow. Wallace also reports, “A member of the Russian delegation heard Stalin and Foreign Minister … Molotov discuss it that night. Molotov said it was time to ‘speed things up’ in developing a Russian bomb’” (page 165).
Wallace then notes that in reality “The Twentieth Century’s Nuclear Arms race began” in Pottsdam “at 7:30 p.m., July 24, 1945,” thirteen days before Hiroshima. That fact pretty much destroys the argument that Hiroshima “started” the nuclear arms race. Generals like George Marshall argued vigorously for Truman’s decision to drop the bomb to end the war as rapidly as possible. Even Franklin Roosevelt’s widow, Eleanor, never accused of being a “hawk,” wrote President Truman on August 12, 1959, that “you could make no other decision than the one you made.”
On the 75th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, should not we at least entertain the thought that the American discovery and use of nuclear weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki have in fact saved untold tens of millions more lives in the intervening years than the number of lives lost at those two cities in 1945.
The fact is World Wars I and II, both occurring in the first half of the 20th century, were the bloodiest wars in human history with tens of millions dead in both wars.
In contrast, at the end of World War II with the debut of nuclear weapons and the Cold War, the second half of the 20th century was comparatively mild in bloodshed. Why? Could it be that the answer is nuclear weapons? If it were not for nuclear weapons and the Doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction, we would have gotten into a war with Russia over Berlin and with China over Korea, seeking to keep the Communists from extending their control over Western Europe and all of Asia. Tens of millions across the globe would have died in such conventional wars. The threat of nuclear weapons has made conflagrations like the two world wars virtually unimaginable.
It must be acknowledged that this human calculus could all change in a moment of miscalculation between the Indians and the Pakistanis on the Indian subcontinent. Still, at this point, 75 years after Hiroshima, nuclear weapons have saved tens of millions more lives than the lives lost at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
However, it must be conceded that 75 years after Hiroshima, nuclear weapons have had an enormous “peacemaking” impact on the post-World War II world.
I, as a baby boomer American along with millions of my generational cohort, would have spent significant portions of our youth and early adulthood in uniforms in far flung places in many cases sacrificing our lives to defeat the global totalitarian ambitions of the Soviets and the Communist Chinese. Since we had nuclear weapons guaranteeing Mutually Assured Destruction, we were spared that fate. And for that I, and I suspect many of my generational cohort, are profoundly grateful.
Thank you, President Truman!
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Dr. Richard Land, BA (magna cum laude), Princeton; D.Phil. Oxford; and Th.M., New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, was president of the Southern Baptists’ Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission (1988-2013) and has served since 2013 as president of Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, NC. Dr. Land has been teaching, writing, and speaking on moral and ethical issues for the last half century in addition to pastoring several churches.
It was horrible to deliberately target civilians. Then again, the whole damn war was horrible. It is estimated that throughout the Asia/Pacific theater, about 10,000 people were dying every day the war continued. 140,000 killed at Hiroshima? That’s the same as the war lasting another 2 weeks.
However horrible they were, the bombs ended the war a lot earlier than it otherwise would have ended and this saved many lives.
I would suggest a new book, by Robert Wilcox...’Japan’s Secret War’. Very insightful over the Japanese and German nuclear bomb development programs. A lot that the US has said in the past...has not been historical fact, and some of the nuke program for the Japanese was probably fairly close to being ‘done’.
Was it ‘moral’ for the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor?
They started it. We finished it.
A good friend of mine was in the invasion force of about 500,000 men that were planning on invading Japan but didn’t because we dropped the Bomb on Nagasaki. We saved many lives.
No!
Tokyo should have wiped off the face of the Earth!!!
A poll of former residents of Nanking shows 100% saying no. Sampling error of +- 0%.
Tarawa island. Japan had 4500 troops, 17 were captured alive.
Other places civilians were encouraged to jump off cliffs to avoid captivity because they had been convinced Americans were cannibal monsters.
They were not going to give up.
The bombs were compassionate.
Anyone who asks that question has to first answer one: “Do you know the full extent of the tenacity and ferocity of the Japanese Imperial Army?” If not, shut up.
They were going to fight to the death.
One of the comments is from a metrosexual who says he’s married to a Japanese woman (well, he did get that part right), and how painful it is for her family to think about our nukes hitting them.
One question I’d ask him to covey to her family: Why did something like half of the US POWs under Japan die before being released, whereas only around 5% of US POWs under Germany died?
In fact, just those added POW deaths may have exceeded the number of those killed by the nukes.
Was it immoral for the japs to bomb Pearl Harbor?
Was the bombing of London immoral?
Was the starvation of 20 million Russian/Ukrainians immoral?
NO! In fact it is immoral (a violation of the Commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor") to assert that dropping atomic bombs on Japan during WWII was immoral.
No
Any conclusion that uses news or information gained / gathered after 8/8/45 is invalid.
The answer must be reached using information and data available at the time the decision was made.
As far as I’m concerned the atomic bomb, in August, 1945 was just another tool in the toolbox. It would’ve been wrong NOT to use it.
Period
It was, basically. (Look up, "Operation Meetinghouse".)
USAAF B-29 crews spent the night of March 9-10 dumping napalm on the city. Their guns (except for those in the tail turrets) had been stripped from the planes to reduce weight and increase the bomb payload. Flying at three thousand feet or less, the aircrews could actually smell burning flesh inside the planes. The loss of life in this raid was greater than that of either Hiroshima or Nagasaki; some 16 square miles of the city were incinerated.
Japan could have surrendered long before atomic bombs were dropped. They chose death instead.
Exactly.
By the time of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki the Japanese Imperial navy was effectively incapable of defending the main island. Same with their air force, they couldn't produce enough planes or pilots fast enough to replace their losses. And the military knew it, advising the civilians to make spears for the impending invasion, rather than admitting surrender was the only remaining option.
In stand off operations US Naval and Air power could have hammered the islands day and night destroying whatever infrastructure was left along with the civilian population. Tokyo fire bombings repeated in every major city, town, and manufacturing complexes. In that scenario Japan would have been left huge losses especially among those of reproductive age above the already huge military losses. This without even mentioning mass suicides such as occurred on Saipan. Lost generations with drastically reduce manufacturing and agricultural capabilities would have set them back to at least the 19th century levels. A backward insignificant island with just a sustenance economy, ripe for a Red Army invasion, which they justly deserved.
I’m alive today because of it. I sincerely believe that.
The militaristic (at the time) leaders of Japan led their people down the road to ruin. The blame for the pain their people endured must be laid at the feet of their leaders, who stubbornly clung to the outmoded code of Bushido even after it became clear that doing so would only end in disaster. And perhaps their pain can be somewhat assuaged by the knowledge that America as the victorious power pursued an altruistic policy of rebuilding and establishment of an enlightened and modern nation that has been able to recover in a remarkably short time from a disastrous war and become a world economic power. Certainly a better fate than many defeated societies in past eras have endured.
And the Soviets were greatly rewarded for doing pretty much not doing anything in the Pacific theatre. FDR at his advanced age/illness compounded by his leftist politics, should be a lesson for all the stupid people who would vote for Biden. FDR did great damage to the US, and many people died and suffered behind the Iron Curtain.
My Dad was also in North Africa and Italy. In May of ‘45 he and buddies were sent to Camp San Luis Obispo, California to get ready to be shipped to the Pacific. He stayed in California until September and was discharged.
He told me on VJ Day everyone stationed at Camp San Luis Obispo celebrated and stayed drunk for days.
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