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To: Mount Athos
Perhaps the biggest Big Pharma fraud of all time.
2 posted on
08/04/2020 3:28:42 PM PDT by
GnuThere
To: Mount Athos
On the other hand, they might be helpful for covid patients.
3 posted on
08/04/2020 3:29:06 PM PDT by
LouieFisk
To: Mount Athos
Statins darn near killed me. And the doctor got mad at me when I stopped taking them. Got a new doctor.
4 posted on
08/04/2020 3:29:44 PM PDT by
ryderann
To: Mount Athos
Hmm...I’ve been a-wonderin about that for a while.
To: Mount Athos
Next up... Diabetes drugs.
6 posted on
08/04/2020 3:30:49 PM PDT by
jerod
(Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
To: Mount Athos
Statins have consistently lowered my cholesterol levels to acceptable for over 20 years.
So if I’m still at risk of heart disease, then low cholesterol levels have nothing to do with that risk?
It that what they are trying to tell us?
Bull Cheese.
7 posted on
08/04/2020 3:32:38 PM PDT by
Responsibility2nd
(Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
To: Mount Athos
Are they talking about statins, or something else?
To: Mount Athos
I fought hard to stop our doctor from giving my wife statins. Anti and pro website MDs have conflicting evidence.
Doctor isn’t 100 years old but she gets stuck in some beliefs.
One technical and important point: The wonder drug features of statins were found in results of test studies on males only. Women had no studies shown to help them, but doctors said “people” were helped. Finally a rather recent one showed help for women, too. But now controversial.
Statins can cause brain fog, pains in legs, destruction of muscles and, yes, the heart is a muscle so it harms, not helps the heart in the long run.
9 posted on
08/04/2020 3:33:38 PM PDT by
frank ballenger
(End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
To: Mount Athos
Eat (old fashion) Oatmeal every morning. It is great with fruit, raisins, cran-raisins, prunes, pecans, dried apricots, breakfast sausage.
It actually works. (instant oatmeal is awful)
14 posted on
08/04/2020 3:39:33 PM PDT by
Texas Fossil
((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
To: Mount Athos
Here’s a thought: maybe staying in shape with regular exercise, and avoiding stress as much as possible, might prevent heart attacks much better than any drug cocktail you could consume?
To: Mount Athos
People can scoff all they want ... but the truth is we are only just beginning to learn how our complex well-designed body works. We have a long, long ways to go.
In the meantime the doctors, research scientists and barber surgeons do what they can ...
To: Mount Athos
Garlic, olive oil, fish, and mushrooms....
19 posted on
08/04/2020 3:43:14 PM PDT by
Fungi
To: Mount Athos
Vitamin C works better for many people.
20 posted on
08/04/2020 3:45:12 PM PDT by
Seruzawa
(TANSTAAFL!)
To: Mount Athos
I receive all my medical care from faculty members of Harvard Medical School.I was told a year or two ago that new research puts me in an increased risk group for certain cardiac issues and was,for the first time,advised to take a statin.The one I was prescribed costs about 5 cents a day...so nobody's making any serious $$$ from this advice.
One study means little in medicine.
21 posted on
08/04/2020 3:45:59 PM PDT by
Gay State Conservative
(The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
To: Mount Athos
Overweight, diabetic, coronary heart disease, high trig’s get yourself on Vescepa especially if you are on a statin and intend on staying on it. Proven 25% reduction in stroke / heart attacks. But as of today it's only FDA approved for those on statins, although Docs that think outside the box can put you on it off label. Doc won't budge on getting you the RX? You can try OTC Omegavia brand 500mg EPA only. Dropped my trig's from a already decent 125 score to 85. Almost all OTC fish oil is mixed Omega 3's, EPA and DHA Omegas and shows no heart benefit in study's. Vascepa FDA trials showed that DHA works against EPA. Getting rid of the DHA was the aha moment! Proven in the Reduce-it PHIII FDA trials.
24 posted on
08/04/2020 3:47:29 PM PDT by
DAC21
To: Mount Athos
They work for high risk patients, e.g. cholesterol over 350.
Then “experts” decided cholesterol should be lower and then even lower, so it was given to low risk folks.
We see the same pressure to lower blood pressure and blood sugar and put everyone on a low salt diet even when their bp is ok and their kidneys are fine.
Years ago they did a study of treating or not treating very high cholesterol, and sure enough, the heart attack rate went down, but the death rate was the same, because one non treatment group had more deaths from cancer, and another group had more deaths from homicide/suicide.
Like most docs, I am cynical, but what pressured us into treating was the threat of a malpractice suit.
Ditto for telemedicine...we used to do it all the time then were pressured not to prescribe over the phone, and now docs are pressured not to see patients even those who need to be seen, but just do a quick phone call.
Makes me glad I am retired.
38 posted on
08/04/2020 4:12:43 PM PDT by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: Mount Athos
I’ll just quit my statins and watch my cholesterol level go over 300 again.
No problem...
43 posted on
08/04/2020 4:25:13 PM PDT by
moovova
To: Mount Athos
44 posted on
08/04/2020 4:29:04 PM PDT by
preacher
( Journalism no longer reports news, they use news to shape our society.)
To: Mount Athos
HA. Lipitor dropped my cholesterol from 660 to 180, so...
Yes. It was that high. My liver was going bonkers and overproduced.
49 posted on
08/04/2020 4:55:43 PM PDT by
Tacrolimus1mg
(Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
To: Mount Athos
Everyone needs to study hyperinsulanemia and insulin resistance. It leads to diabetes, heart disease and dementia. Cholesterol is an essential human hormone and statins are snake oil.
52 posted on
08/04/2020 5:10:51 PM PDT by
Oklahoma
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