Posted on 08/04/2020 3:27:29 PM PDT by Mount Athos
Statins are not particularly effective at reducing the risk of dying from heart disease, a study claims.
Scientists analysed 35 studies into the effects of the drugs which lower 'bad' LDL cholesterol and found the pills have no consistent benefit.
The research, published in the British Medical Journal, found three quarters of all trials reported no reduction in mortality among those who took the drugs.
And half of all studies suggested that cholesterol-busting pills did not prevent heart attacks or strokes.
The research flies in the face of decades of medical advice. Authors claimed doctors have overlooked evidence that suggests statins, which are routinely prescribed to people at risk of heart disease, are not effective.
Around 8million people in Britain and 35million in the US take statins. They are thought to prevent heart attacks and strokes by lowering levels of LDL cholesterol in the blood.
Statins are routinely prescribed to people thought to be at risk of heart disease, including those with diabetes, high blood pressure and over-75s.
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Big help. Thanx
I tried 3 different statins and could not tolerate any of them. MD wanted to try a 4th and I said no and found an MD who listened. Followed her when she started her own practice in 2012. I do red rice yeast and niacin at night and it’s been fine for years. BP is good with low dose meds and I have lost some weight and bike 3x a week.
I’ll just quit my statins and watch my cholesterol level go over 300 again.
No problem...
L8r
I eat raw oatmeal and Wheaties, fresh fruit and 1% milk 6 days a week for 35 years. Pipes are clean as a whistle per recent cardiac catheterization. Electrical system - not so hot.
seen some good arguments that the issue is inflammation not cholesterol.
Honest question - plaque build up is a symptom of what?
I am trying to stay off of statins, but my cholesterol is sky high, regardless of significant dietary and lifestyle changes.
Thanks in advance,
Tatt
Thank you for your reply. Im pretty sure Ill have to find a new doc, if I go off them, but I am ready to try about anything. I feel like Ive aged 30 years in the last five. Of course, its hard to tell with the arthritis I could hardly walk when I got diagnosed. Seems to come and go.
HA. Lipitor dropped my cholesterol from 660 to 180, so...
Yes. It was that high. My liver was going bonkers and overproduced.
Good healthy diet.
you just described my diet, i don’t take any pharmaceuticals
Everyone needs to study hyperinsulanemia and insulin resistance. It leads to diabetes, heart disease and dementia. Cholesterol is an essential human hormone and statins are snake oil.
What do you recommend to prevent or treat insulin resistance
Marked
Understanding via my doctor is that statins have a chance of being helpful in reducing arterial plaques if started at a fairly low age and used consistently. Starting statins in late middle age or thereafter is good for drug companies.
Just as the Clintons taught us how skillful liars use words to hide in plain sight, the political games over hydroxychloraquine show us how easy it is to design “studies” that look at anything but the correct way to use meds. Studies of statins started in the elderly will be “no measurable effect” every time. We’d have to review the design of every study to know if this 30+ study roundup has validity.
Doctor prescribed me Atorvastatin. I call it Anna Torv Statin. I don’t take it, makes my liver hurt.
Two docs wanted me to take these and I declined. My new doc said he would not insist because studies have shown no increase in life span. Happy I never started them.
I think there are other big pharma solutions in search of a problem.
Good question indeed. The late Dr. Howard Wayne, a cardiologist from San Diego, suggested that plaque buildup is a natural occurrence and not necessarily a disease process. Who knows?
pharmaceuticals are highly correlated with doctors getting awesome free golf vacations from pharmaceutical salesmen
I’ve had high BP, LDL and Trig. Type A personality in IT industry, traveled, ate poorly, yada yada yada.
Late 90s, I took a job relo, new PCP. Dr said if I continue down my current lifestyle I’m going to be putting a heart Dr’s kid thru college due to all the problems I’m going to incur.
Started Atorvastatin - generic LIPITOR, LDL (bad Chol) started coming down, HDL (good Chol) didn’t increase. HDL continues to remain under 40mg/gl. Trigs and BP started to move down also over 3-4 years ending in normal range. Started eating better, lost some weight, moved into job with minimal travel.
Then in 2017, I started getting exhausted. Walking 50ft would wear me out. Dr. cut off of Atorvastatin within days I felt great again. So I went 6 months, using diet and additional exercise, no statin. This failed miserably. LDL, Trigs shot up, LDL up 110%. We moved the dosage around for 18 months. Still wore me out. On my own I stopped taking Ultra DHA and Vit D. Energy returned, then again on my own, I started to increase my Atorvastatin dosage back to where it was. At next annual, LDL, trig returned to normal range, HDL was still below normal.
In summary, one of the 2 OTCs started after 25+ years of interacting negatively with Atorvastatin. As the article stated, LDL adds build up on your blood vessels, as it did mine, High BP. Statin lowered LDL and lowered BP. Wished it worked for everyone that way. Glad it did for me.
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