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Video shows park ranger shoot and kill unarmed Carlsbad Caverns visitor
KOB ^ | 06 30 2020 | Chris Ramirez

Posted on 07/02/2020 6:16:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

CARLSBAD, N.M. - Recently released videos from a body-camera worn by a National Park Ranger at Carlsbad Caverns National Park reveals the park visitor who he tased, then shot and killed did not provoke the use of force and was unarmed.

Charles “Gage” Lorentz was traveling from his work site in Pecos, Texas on March 21. 2020 intending to head to his family’s home in Southwest Colorado. A report from the Eddy County Sheriff’s Department noted that he detoured at Carlsbad Caverns National Park to meet a friend. The report states National Park Ranger Robert Mitchell stopped him for speeding on a dirt road near the Rattlesnake Springs area of the park.

The lapel video shows Ranger Mitchell ordered Lorentz to spread his feet and move closer to a railing. Lorentz is seen complying with those orders. But when the ranger orders Lorentz to turn around, Lorentz is seen in the video not complying and dancing to nearby music playing from someone’s vehicle. Ranger Mitchell commanded Lorentz to take his hands out of his pockets, and without warning or an announcement that force will be used; Ranger Mitchell deployed his Taser at Lorentz.

The video abruptly ends when the Taser is deployed. Twenty-six seconds of the video is missing, but when the video resumes, the video shows Ranger Mitchell on top of Lorentz. That’s when the ranger shot him twice with his service gun.

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To: yesthatjallen
The lapel video also shows that after three minutes passes, Ranger Mitchell put a motionless Lorentz in handcuffs and declared him, “under arrest.” Eight minutes after the shooting, Ranger Mitchell removed his first aid kit from his vehicle and four minutes after that, he finally rendered aid to Lorentz.
21 posted on 07/02/2020 6:54:32 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate other.)
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To: yesthatjallen

White guys cant dance is now systemic racism I guess.


22 posted on 07/02/2020 6:54:33 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Well yeah, 26 seconds of video are missing. The Rayshard (Atlanta) killing also went from friendly to dead in a hurry - for good reason.

I do note that police body cameras do tend to become...uninvolved at critical times. 26 missing seconds here, both cameras on ground during Rayshard arrest (surveillance cameras did hey what happened), etc.


23 posted on 07/02/2020 6:56:27 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Having lived in Chicago area for 37 years I had my run-ins with corrupt Chicago cops. But I was intelligent enough to never to disobey the cops. I got even with them in traffic court, where the judge was the boss, not the cop.


24 posted on 07/02/2020 6:57:57 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: knarf

Did you go to the link and read. The guy did not comply with rangers orders to turn around, or to take his hands out of his pockets. He just kept saying no. Finally, ranger shot him with Taser, which couldn’t penetrate his coat. In line with protocol, ranger then approached the perp to apply Taser directly, as soon as the ranger stepped forward, the perp rushed him and attacked him which witnesses have verified. In the fight, the ranger almost got knocked out so before having his gun taken, he shot the perp twice. Good shoot to me, one less dirtbag.


25 posted on 07/02/2020 6:58:24 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Bonemaker; All
“I don’t see what the guy did to be shot.”

He kept escalating the situation.

He is told to move. He doesn't.

He is told to turn around. He won't.

He is told to take his hands out of his pockets.

He doesn't.

All of those are danger signs to police.

He turned out not to have a weapon, other than personal weapons (his own body, hands and feet), but the officer could not know that.

It looks to me that is why he tased him.

Then he says the taser had no effect, and the physical fight started.

He is fighting with the guy when he shoots him.

When a person has engaged with an armed man in a physical fight, it becomes a fight for a deadly weapon.

The officer still did not know what the suspect might have had in his pockets.

26 posted on 07/02/2020 7:10:51 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Or the Ranger could have not been on some ego fueled dick trip, and just wrote him a ticket and let him be on his way in America, a supposed Free Republic.


27 posted on 07/02/2020 7:17:38 PM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: tinyowl

Brevity = wit.


28 posted on 07/02/2020 7:19:50 PM PDT by coaster123 (Trust no one under 60.)
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To: Yogafist

It’s from a TV station.

TV journalism always sucks.

You see better writing from a 5th grader.


29 posted on 07/02/2020 7:20:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: rednesss

Obviously the guy didn’t want a ticket. He wanted trouble.

So the cop should be a pussy and let him go?


30 posted on 07/02/2020 7:23:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: LambSlave
"Did you go to the link and read. The guy did not comply with rangers orders to turn around, or to take his hands out of his pockets. He just kept saying no. Finally, ranger shot him with Taser, which couldn’t penetrate his coat. In line with protocol, ranger then approached the perp to apply Taser directly, as soon as the ranger stepped forward, the perp rushed him and attacked him which witnesses have verified. In the fight, the ranger almost got knocked out so before having his gun taken, he shot the perp twice. Good shoot to me, one less dirtbag."

Thanks for filling in the blanks. Looks like good info.

31 posted on 07/02/2020 7:24:33 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: heartwood

Park ranger going to jail for life


32 posted on 07/02/2020 7:27:48 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: rednesss
How was he supposed to write him a ticket?

He would not comply with what the officer told him to do.

The officer had no reason to believe he wouldn't just walk off, run off, get back in the vehicle and drive off, or attack the officer.

He was not being cooperative, so how was the officer supposed to write a ticket?

The officer could not just let him back into the vehicle, when he seemed likely to be impaired.

That would put the public at risk.

33 posted on 07/02/2020 7:28:10 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Good. I’d wish video of every other normal person gets the same treatment.

There’s a reason cops wear a badge. Do what they tell you to do.

PS. Have a good high res camera on the front and REAR of your vehicle. And load it Automatically in real time to the “cloud” With access by your family..

Shut up. Ask for a lawyer from the next county/state over.

Yup. They are out there. Thank god our cops (here in town) are on the up and up.


34 posted on 07/02/2020 7:31:19 PM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: golux

If he wasn’t on drugs, he did a great imitation of someone on drugs.


35 posted on 07/02/2020 7:32:39 PM PDT by bort
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To: yesthatjallen

I don’t see what the guy did to be shot.


Apparently, he refused to “Respect my AUTHORITAY!” I’m pro-cop, but not pro-stupid, vindictive, or bullying cop.


36 posted on 07/02/2020 7:36:28 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: TribalPrincess2U

The deceased’s toxicology screen showed that he was not on drugs. And the missing 26 seconds is *highly* suspicious.


37 posted on 07/02/2020 7:41:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: yesthatjallen

WTH do park rangers need with tasers and firearms? Is there THAT much a need for such firepower? Isn’t their job primarily to give speeding tickets and tell people to put out their campfires and to not feed the wildlife?


38 posted on 07/02/2020 7:41:30 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: coaster123

Are you accusing me of longwindedness?


39 posted on 07/02/2020 7:41:56 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: bort

There were no drugs or alcohol in his system.

And if there were?

Shoot him dead?

Oh well, never second-guess one of our HEROES!

Like mall cops and lactation consultants.

“Free Republic” indeed.


40 posted on 07/02/2020 7:42:46 PM PDT by golux
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