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America's 2nd Largest Indian Tribe Expels Blacks
NPR ^ | September 20, 2011 | Interview NPR

Posted on 06/16/2020 4:09:03 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici

The Cherokee Nation recently stripped citizenship from a majority of African-Americans who descended from slaves of wealthy Cherokee Indians before the Civil War. Host Michel Martin discusses this controversial move with MacArthur Fellow Tiya Miles, who studies interrelated histories of African-Americans and Native Americans.

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2011; indians; nativeamericans; slaves
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To: 2banana

They were pretty good at enslaving white folk too.


21 posted on 06/16/2020 4:38:34 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: VeniVidiVici

The local tribes here in western Washington that have gotten really fat from casinos purged a bunch that weren’t enough of their kind of Indian a while back. Greedy little devils.


22 posted on 06/16/2020 4:39:20 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: VeniVidiVici

B-b-but! How can this be? Blacks & Native Americans are both POC! Marching together in lockstep against the common enemy——white people!


23 posted on 06/16/2020 4:43:50 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: VeniVidiVici

Good

I have beautiful Cherokee grandchildren...


24 posted on 06/16/2020 4:46:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: alternatives?

Young Men’s Christian Association. (YMCA for short).

It’s all based in religion, I assure you.


25 posted on 06/16/2020 4:51:09 PM PDT by NorthWoody (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: I want the USA back

Four ponies and a teepee..


26 posted on 06/16/2020 4:52:44 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I’m in DC and I can attest…the vast majority of redskins are black.


27 posted on 06/16/2020 4:54:27 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: VeniVidiVici

Anita Bryant stood with Donald Trump at Ellis Island circa 1986. Native Cherokee she was.
He wasn’t quite Orange Juice Bad Man quality hair color yet.


28 posted on 06/16/2020 4:56:27 PM PDT by Scram1
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Not breaking news. This happened quite a few years ago.

I didn't put it in Breaking News.

29 posted on 06/16/2020 4:59:13 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: odawg

“I have read that the percentage of blacks who owned slaves in New Orleans in 1860 exceeded the percentage of whites who owned slaves.”

Not sure about percentages, but I do know there were a LOT of freedmen & -women living prosperously as artisans, shopkeepers, & courtesans in New Orleans even before the Emancipation.
There are, or were (prior to Katrina flooding) a lot of records of slaves & free blacks in New Orleans historical archives.
Author Anne Rice researched those archives & has written about the peculiar tendency of some freed slaves to purchase their own relatives— and then keep them enslaved & even in some instances to abuse them.


30 posted on 06/16/2020 5:00:16 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: VeniVidiVici

Just trying to show the idiot Progressives, Democrats, Leftists that it’s a bit more complicated than “blame Whitey”.

Considering the slave holders were Democrats. The KKK were Democrats.

And today the Democrats enslave the Blacks on the Democrat Plantation.


31 posted on 06/16/2020 5:03:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

Martha MacCallum had a guest on her show today, one Dr Steele. He spoke what I have been saying for decades.

Basically he said American blacks are never going to become more prosperous or more respected so long as they think those things will become possible from generosity of white Americans.

Only way AA’s will gain respect and prosperity is by self responsibility and not depend on others to provide them grants.

Look at immigrants from Vietnam, Jamaica, India, S. Korea in USA. All have prospered not because of any white generosity, but with self help.


32 posted on 06/16/2020 5:11:02 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

This happened a long time ago. The irony was that most of the Cherokee pushing this had very little Cherokee “blood” themselves - instead, they were mostly European with a little bit of Cherokee mixed in.


33 posted on 06/16/2020 5:13:13 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: VeniVidiVici

So I bet Elizabeth Warren’s Cherokee ancestors ACTUALLY HAD AFRICAN AMERICAN SLAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 06/16/2020 5:15:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Hiddigeigei

We-Sorts (also Wesorts) is a name for a group of Native Americans in Maryland who are from the Piscataway tribe. It is regarded as derogatory and a pejorative by some, and rarely used by the current younger generation. The Piscataway were powerful at the time of European encounter. Many individuals with the surnames Proctor, Newman, Wright, Savoy, Queen, Butler, Thompson, Swann, Gray, and Harley claim that Native heritage. Many are notably of a mixed race between black, white and Native American. “Some members of the Piscataway Indian groups now consider the name Wesort derogatory.”


35 posted on 06/16/2020 5:17:00 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Tired of Taxes
This happened a long time ago. The irony was that most of the Cherokee pushing this had very little Cherokee “blood” themselves - instead, they were mostly European with a little bit of Cherokee mixed in.

Doesn't matter. The tribe voted to expel.

36 posted on 06/16/2020 5:18:48 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

The House on Diamond Hill: A Cherokee Plantation Story
by Tiya Miles (Author)

But first, we wanted to talk about one of the many complicated stories that involve race and heritage. While it is well-known history that slavery was a common practice in the Deep South before the Civil War, less well known is the fact that it wasn’t just white families that were slave owners.

Some well-to-do Native Americans also owned slaves. In fact, the late Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Wilma Mankiller wrote in her autobiography that, quote, “The truth is that the practice of slavery will forever cast a shadow on the great Cherokee Nation,” unquote.

Indeed that shadow continues today in the latest iteration over the debate over just who to include as members of the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee Supreme Court has stripped some of the slave descendents known as freedmen of their Cherokee citizenship in the decision last month.

At the turn of the nineteenth century, James Vann, a Cherokee chief and entrepreneur, established Diamond Hill in Georgia, the most famous plantation in the southeastern Cherokee Nation.

In this first full-length study to reconstruct the history of the plantation, Tiya Miles tells the story of Diamond Hill’s founding, its flourishing, its takeover by white land-lottery winners on the eve of the Cherokee Removal, its decay, and ultimately its renovation in the 1950s.

This moving multiracial history sheds light on the various cultural communities that interacted within the plantation boundaries—from elite Cherokee slaveholders to Cherokee subsistence farmers, from black slaves of various ethnic backgrounds to free blacks from the North and South, from German-speaking Moravian missionaries to white southern skilled laborers.

Moreover, the book includes rich portraits of the women of these various communities. Vividly written and extensively researched, this history illuminates gender, class, and cross-racial relationships on the southern frontier.


37 posted on 06/16/2020 5:20:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Can I trust that you and I will get out and vote for Trump, this November!)
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To: I want the USA back

Responding to the fact that BLM doesn’t believe that Indian lives matter.


38 posted on 06/16/2020 5:21:46 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The House on Diamond Hill: A Cherokee Plantation Story Kindle Edition

by Tiya Miles (Author)

But first, we wanted to talk about one of the many complicated stories that involve race and heritage. While it is well-known history that slavery was a common practice in the Deep South before the Civil War, less well known is the fact that it wasn’t just white families that were slave owners.

Some well-to-do Native Americans also owned slaves. In fact, the late Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Wilma Mankiller wrote in her autobiography that, quote, “The truth is that the practice of slavery will forever cast a shadow on the great Cherokee Nation,” unquote. Indeed that shadow continues today in the latest iteration over the debate over just who to include as members of the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee Supreme Court has stripped some of the slave descendents known as freedmen of their Cherokee citizenship in the decision last month.

At the turn of the nineteenth century, James Vann, a Cherokee chief and entrepreneur, established Diamond Hill in Georgia, the most famous plantation in the southeastern Cherokee Nation.

In this first full-length study to reconstruct the history of the plantation, Tiya Miles tells the story of Diamond Hill’s founding, its flourishing, its takeover by white land-lottery winners on the eve of the Cherokee Removal, its decay, and ultimately its renovation in the 1950s.

This moving multiracial history sheds light on the various cultural communities that interacted within the plantation boundaries—from elite Cherokee slaveholders to Cherokee subsistence farmers, from black slaves of various ethnic backgrounds to free blacks from the North and South, from German-speaking Moravian missionaries to white southern skilled laborers.

Moreover, the book includes rich portraits of the women of these various communities. Vividly written and extensively researched, this history illuminates gender, class, and cross-racial relationships on the southern frontier.


39 posted on 06/16/2020 5:24:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Can I trust that you and I will get out and vote for Trump, this November!)
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To: odawg
I am certainly not going to track it out, but I have read that the percentage of blacks who owned slaves in New Orleans in 1860 exceeded the percentage of whites who owned slaves.

That may be technically true, but if it is, then it isn't what you think. It cost money to go to the courthouse and formally manumit a slave. Sometimes freed black men would buy their wives and children and just never bother with the formalities.

40 posted on 06/16/2020 5:26:32 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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