Posted on 06/11/2020 9:58:18 AM PDT by Lions Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmol05Uftv8
The video the media doesn't want you to see. George Floyd resisting arrest for 3 minutes while officers attempt to get him in the back seat.
Your argument in general simply reinforces my own opposition to the militarized and increasingly violent urban police departments.
Here is a possibility that I don't think many of you have considered. The autopsy report says he had bruises and contusions on his head. The cops did not beat or hit him in the head.
It is my understanding that he was thrashing around in the back of the police car, so they dragged him out through the passenger side and held him down.
Could their intentions have been to hold him down so as not to further injure himself from his thrashing?
The definition of "resisting arrest" can be changed.
Just as the definition of "marriage" has changed.
You were posting about the media.
Do you have an example of a publication or broadcast that's been banned?
You will likely be asserting your support for the existing system till they march you into the camp.
Well, at least until I'm given a viable alternative.
I certainly don't share your vision of a system based on arbitrary standards that you (or the Commissar of Compelled Speech) think appropriate.
I think one of the major differences between you and I is that I realize we are in a war...
Sorry, not ready for martial law yet.
If the drug addled St George had got in the GD car he would be alive now.
Fascinating. Please show the link.
I have watched most of the video on this incident I can find, and I have not seen that.
You are being willfully blind. My local sheriff watched the video, called it “murder” and said as a former patrolman he was “shocked” none of the other cops intervened to stop the assault of a handcuffed and unconscious prisoner.
We are in agreement.
Look at Dubya....he was a Republican wartime president and did pretty well in handling 9/11 and Afghanistan. Then he went after Iraq; the left went bat guano crazy against that war. Many Republicans defended the President AND that war effort, reflexively. Only years later did many of us retract our knee-jerk defense of the President, but the reality is we defended him (in large part) because we didn't want to give the left an edge. It is arguable that HAD we called balls and strikes in Iraq that Lurch would have won, and thus that makes defending Dubya a political decision. And that's ok, but let's be honest about it.
We just saw this with Coronavirus. Many people debated cogently the merits of partial shut downs - but shut downs spawned draconian statism. While it's hard to remember, but things weren't exactly clear as day three months ago - Wayne Allen Root put it best:
I have many great friends and guests on my national TV and radio shows who are medical experts. Half believe this is the pandemic to end all pandemics. They quote Centers for Disease Control and Prevention models that report as many as 1.7 million Americans could die. So people are rightfully scared out of their minds. American business is shutting down. But the other half of my medical friends and expert guests say this is an overreaction. They predict fewer Americans will die than during the flu season of 2017-18 that killed about 80,000 people. They don't believe we need to close down American business and lock ourselves in our homes. The problem is we won't know who's right until it's over.
I suspect many people talked down any technical merits of even a risk-based shut down because that seemed to make them philosophical allies of the leftist scum who shut down the nation out of political desires and didn't give a rip about commerce or health.
So yea, George Floyd wasn't a great dude. He was intoxicated with fentanyl when he died. But that doesn't excuse his death at the hands of Derek Chauvin. Protesting peacefully is Constituionally-guaranteed right. The rioters and arsonists are criminals and many people of good will undoubtedly smiled when they heard that a rioter trying to blow up an ATM became a Darwin Award recipient.
It's a mad, mad state of affairs. May God have mercy on us.
If dirty cop Derek Chauvin had been able to subdue him with the help of the two or other cops who were on the scene once he was cuffed, we wouldn't have had to put up with weeks of rioting and billions of dollars of property damage.
“It is also sad when you have to keep pointing out that the knee in the neck isn’t what killed Mr. Floyd. It was his heart condition along with a mixture of meth and fentanyl that killed Floyd.
All the protests are based on a deliberate distortion of the relevant facts. Same thing with Michael Brown. Same thing with Traevon Martin. Same thing with many of these cases.”
Yes, the bigger the lie; the better. We’ll eventually find out that Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose and, we’ll still be divided into “the cop killed him” vs “the evidence shows” crowds (and I though science denial was considered deplorable).
Keep your lamp lit and good luck with your search ...
I’ll stop pretending to give a rat’s ass what happened to this drug dealing, porn star wannabe crackhead who was in jail 5 times, and you can pause your liberal white-guilt, cop-hating issue with the arresting cops :)
Do you even watch the "news" on television? Everything the public needs to know is banned. Only information that supports the Democrats is allowed to get through the filter.
Sorry, not ready for martial law yet.
Reminds me of what Leon Trotsky said.
"You May Not Be Interested in War, but War Is Interested in You"
And people who are unwilling to recognize the danger are helping to bring it to us.
We moved from California to Wyoming ten years ago. Our LEO’s are Park County Sheriff’s Department and they are night-and-day different from California cops!
They’re the nicest people you meet. When a friend of mine had her car burn on the road a couple years ago one of the deputies not only took her home he also stopped at the store so she could pick up the groceries she needed!
These people are our neighbors, first and foremost.
California cops were stormtroopers by comparison.
And as I’ve said a lot of times here on FR is that nothing will sour you on bad cops faster than being around good cops!!!
Give it up, no one was beating George Floyd, they were restraining a 6’6”, 250 pound suspect who was high on drugs and violently resisting arrest, waiting for the ambulance to come. The videos show the only one acting violently was Floyd.
See post 93.
Also, don’t call me a liberal.
How do you find out about it if it's banned?
Do you have an illegal news source?
You and I are on the same page with this except I think it’s too early to say if he was killed by Chauvin. It looks like he was, I agree. But then, It looked like those cops that beat King would easily be found guilty in a criminal court of law. They weren’t. And it was because the Jury saw stuff the rest of us didn’t.
I firmly believe the same thing is going on here, but it remains to be seen what will happen. I’m not saying Chauvin is innocent. My crime seems to be refusing to say he’s guilty until a jury says so.
Personally, I think he’s a thug. But then, that is because I think that that is the only way a cop could survive as a cop in that neighborhood. So there is that...
You and I agree about this. See my last comments in my post just before this one.
So maybe it was strenuously resisting for minutes with a system full of meth and fentanyl that set off his bum heart.
However, if there are instructions in the MPD take down procedures that state 'keep knee of the neck of perp,' he is going to jail.
If there are no such instructions, I would say he is still going to jail because of the commies and bleeding hearts demand it. How's that for justice.
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