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NYC Epicenter Nurse Tells All ~ and the Killing Of Patients
Youtube ^ | 06/11/20

Posted on 06/11/2020 3:20:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Start listening at the 29 minute mark.  This confirms everything many Freepers have been saying.

 

https://youtu.be/L8EL5AwimwE

 


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; death; killingpatientes; newyork; nurse
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1 posted on 06/11/2020 3:20:09 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Boy,when you HAVE to go to a hospital you’d better have an advocate with you to ask questions. Your spouse,family,whoever. Somebody that loves you and is not afraid to ask questions.


2 posted on 06/11/2020 3:43:45 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Enlightened1

I dont have 30 minutes, can someone shorten this?


3 posted on 06/11/2020 3:45:35 AM PDT by Ikeon (They see me roll'n and they be hate'n. they think Im talkin dirty.)
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To: Enlightened1

I just want to watch her talk

I’d Intubate that...


4 posted on 06/11/2020 3:47:57 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Ikeon

Her basic message seems to be that the treatment was all wrong. Patients who “had COVID-19” were just given very powerful tranquilizers and put on ventilators until they stopped breathing. She described a patient, a 38-year-old man, who seemed to have normal, slightly low, blood oxygen levels, but who (I guess) was a worrier and showed up at the hospital saying he felt a little short of breath. They jumped into action and killed him.

I only watched a few minutes so perhaps I’m misrepresenting.


5 posted on 06/11/2020 3:59:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

OMG. thank you. but OMG! nurses and doctors arent the people you see on tv. there are more than a few over educated idiots out there and the hospital admins are focused on the bottom line $$$$$. Ive had surgerys and always felt they were not concerned about doing the right thing just going “ by the book” or less!


6 posted on 06/11/2020 4:13:01 AM PDT by Ikeon (They see me roll'n and they be hate'n. they think Im talkin dirty.)
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To: Ikeon
nurses and doctors arent the people you see on tv

In a medical class of 250, what do you call the person who graduated 250th?


Doctor

You really don't know what you are getting....
Not shot, dog bite

7 posted on 06/11/2020 4:22:32 AM PDT by Karma_Sherab
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To: Ikeon

This is in general hogwash and this RN doesn’t have the education nor credentials to make the judgments she makes.

I can assure you we don’t stuff people on ventilators to kill them. As a matter of fact a recent critical care article has refuted the notion that 80% of patients with SARS Died. The number is more like 35-40% which though it sounds drastic is the mortality for any ARDS and sepsis shock case.

When we make the decision to intubate three things are taken into account. Oxygenation, ventilations, and mechanics. We look at indicators on blood gas, radiology, and clinical diagnosis to make the decision and weight the risks against the benefits. We look at things like the Pa : Fi gradient and make judgments on a plethora of well established criteria and clinical experience.

What we also know is that early on non clinician researchers made some horrible reconditions they we went with. Avoid high flow oxygen. Avoid bipap we it might aerosolize the virus. And cause spread. So we took several steps that are intermediate to intubation off the table.

We sedate people on mechanical ventilation lightly because not being able to talk with a tube on tour throat is not overwhelmingly comfortable. We have someone looking for a moment of fame who doesn’t know what she is talking s out in this case.

But hey it stirs up controversy.


8 posted on 06/11/2020 4:30:41 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Enlightened1

later.


9 posted on 06/11/2020 4:34:17 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: gas_dr

This nurse went from Tampa to help at a hospital in Queens. She describes her experience. Do you work at this hospital?


10 posted on 06/11/2020 4:38:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Patients who “had COVID-19” were just given very powerful tranquilizers and put on ventilators until they stopped breathing.

The hospital can then claim a COVID-19 "bounty" payment from the death. No, I'm not being facetious.

11 posted on 06/11/2020 4:40:05 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Ikeon

I said go to the 29 minute mark. Start there.

If you don’t have time, then do not listen to it.


12 posted on 06/11/2020 5:12:38 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: HighSierra5

Exactly


13 posted on 06/11/2020 5:12:59 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Flick Lives

The $39K is a rounding error compared to the cost of having someone on a ventilator in the ICU.

That won’t even cover the medical costs of one DAY in the ICU.


14 posted on 06/11/2020 5:16:53 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Just mythoughts

No but I am a board certified intensivist and have treated many covid and ARDS patients. My certifying board has required extensive CME on the treatment of SARS and I have participated in planning and administrative level preparation for SARS and numerous other diseases that would potentially overwhelm the system

The system is relatively standardized with rapid communication of best practices. This ER nurse I assure you does not follow the patients on the floor and in my judgment lacks the education and insight to make the judgments she has from a professional standpoint and from a specialty standpoint

What she has said is long on assumption and short in data. But we have seen a lot of that with this disease.


15 posted on 06/11/2020 5:28:09 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr
Did you watch her video? This hospital ‘if’ she is telling the truth, had poor patients, (Medicaid/Medicare) and the powers that be, required all patients treated with ventilators... (while she was there.).. this is the hospital that President Trump described the body bags. Her whole point was Florida patients lived, but, those that showed up to this hospital did not.

I think her story is credible, given Q-mo’s statement about deaths, ventilators, and President Trump specifically calling out this hospital.

16 posted on 06/11/2020 5:45:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Karma_Sherab

Of course that person who graduated 250/250 was still in the top 1-5% of their undergraduate class, scored at the top of the MCAT tests and passed 4 years of rigorous academic and clincal training.


17 posted on 06/11/2020 5:48:53 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: gas_dr

Re: Blood gases

I have come to the conclusion that low oxygen levels in many nursing home patients was caused by strapping a surgical mask around their mouth and nose for days on end.


18 posted on 06/11/2020 6:01:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Mom MD

Re: “Of course that person who graduated 250/250 was still in the top 1-5% of their undergraduate class”

Only if they were white or Asian.


19 posted on 06/11/2020 6:05:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: gas_dr

SARS had a very tiny death count. Dr Fauci back then was saying over 200 million dead. It ended up being under 1,000.

I am actually friends with a few RNs. She sounds the same to me.
Perhaps RNs try keep things simple for the public?

I would not be so quick to dismiss her.


20 posted on 06/11/2020 6:56:35 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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