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Not Aliens, but Maybe Drones? New Reports Detail U.S. Navy’s UFO Encounters
nationalinterest.org ^ | May 18, 2020 | Ethen Kim Lieser

Posted on 05/19/2020 1:34:46 AM PDT by AggregateThreat

In one particular report from March 2014, which refers to the UFOs as “unidentified aerial devices,” a pilot described seeing a “metallic object” that was “small in size, approximately the size of a suitcase, and silver in color.”

The pilot apparently came within only 1,000 feet of the object, but “was unable to positively determine the identity of the aircraft.” The pilot then “attempted to regain visual contact with the aircraft, but was unable.”

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Military/Veterans; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; astronomy; dod; drones; extraterrestrials; navy; science; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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To: AggregateThreat; All

Again, look for the “War Room” article. In this article a retired Radar Engineer noted back in the day, they experimented with tricking out our enemies radar system by placing these false targets on them, and of course you try it on your own system 1st. He thinks they are back at it....


21 posted on 05/19/2020 5:57:01 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Most likely RC aircraft.....RC hobbyists have some incredible planes, many are miniature jets with actual turbine engines.......”

At 80,000 feet?


22 posted on 05/19/2020 6:02:25 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Rockingham
An advanced civilization studying us would realize, as I said, our predilection to destroy ourselves. They would also know, or very soon find out we would most likely react to their contact with skepticism at the least and out right hostility at the worst.

They would also no doubt know we are in possession of not only nuclear power for the generation of electricity and peaceful uses but we're in possession of nuclear weapons, that we have used nuclear weapons in the past and if we're threatened we will fight. If there is an advanced civilization(s) out there and most assuredly there are , they know where we are. Whether or not they have been here before in our early history for myself I doubt it very much.

23 posted on 05/19/2020 6:02:59 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: dljordan
At 80,000 feet?

There's nothing in the article that mentions 80,000 feet..........and FWIW, the ceiling for military jets is around 50,000 ft.

24 posted on 05/19/2020 6:18:27 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: jmacusa
Not just our wars show us to be violent, but our violent attitude even toward UFOs would have been clear when, soon after WW II, both the US and the USSR adopted shoot them down policies for when UFOs strayed into sensitive airspace. This proved mostly ineffective, except to provoke retaliation that seems to have included civilian aircraft as UFO targets. The result was that both superpowers adopted a leave them alone policy toward UFOs.

UFO interest in nuclear power plants and weapons installations is well established, with some incidents of nuclear missiles being deactivated or started toward count down. Notably, the explosion of nuclear weapons in war and in testing would likely have prompted interest in Earth as a nuclear power. Even if UFOs are immune to all other human weapons, a hit from a missile with a ten kiloton nuclear warhead would no doubt be destructive of a UFO.

Along those lines, in the immediate post-WW II era, it was at Roswell, New Mexico that the USAF based its nuclear-armed B-29s. No wonder the place seemed to attract interest from UFOs.

By one account, the US policy of UFO secrecy was based on John von Neuman's insight that UFOs seemed to prefer secrecy, so changing that policy might prompt them to become aggressive. Supposedly, with new weapons now providing the US and Earth with a self-defense capability, UFO secrecy is gradually being relaxed. The release of the Navy UFO videos and pilot reports seem consistent with that explanation.

25 posted on 05/19/2020 6:31:58 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: mad_as_he$$
I still have my hair, but I am inclined to demand, as the line from Bladerunner had it, "More life, f*cker!"
26 posted on 05/19/2020 6:34:23 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

lol....


27 posted on 05/19/2020 6:37:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Rockingham

I’m sorry but there is no real proof these things actually exist. Unidentified flying objects are just that, unidentified. I know all about Roswell. In 1981 I bought a book called “The Roswell Incident’’. I believed in the things until I developed an interest in astronomy. I’m sorry, but until one lands on The White House lawn I don’t believe in them anymore.


28 posted on 05/19/2020 6:55:10 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: jmacusa
UFO sightings and contact incidents are a worldwide phenomenon, and serious, analytical minded people regard it as real.

Some years ago, a friend of mine who was a retired intelligence operator with a high-level security clearance was on a private business trip to meet scientists and program managers at the Sandia National Labs in Albuquerque, New Mexico. His visit was complicated by the UFO flap that became known as the Phoenix Lights.

When my friend arrived, the scientists whom he was to meet with were busy analyzing numerous videos and photos of the episode. Since my friend had a wife who was a believer, he became a willing audience for their analysis and theories that showed the UFO and tracked its movement. When he got home, he called me and said that USA Today would soon do an article on it.

And that is what happened, with the Air Force later peddling the absurd claim that flares from a National Guard exercise explained the supposed UFO sighting -- even though it included a black triangle shape obscuring stars as it slowly transited over half the state and then Phoenix.

As my friend explained, that visit to Sandia made him a UFO believer. He saw nothing directly of the incident, but the photographs and video he saw and their analysis by some of the best scientists and technicians in the world convinced him.

As for me, I have never seen a UFO and do not profess to know precisely what they are. Decades of government playing keep-away with the data though have convinced me that UFOs are real in some sense. After all, except to entertain little children, no one plays keep-away unless they have something to hide.

29 posted on 05/19/2020 7:54:31 AM PDT by Rockingham
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The rest of the AATIP keyword, chrono:

30 posted on 05/19/2020 9:06:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Rockingham

Is it even possible? Yes, it is.
Giorgio A. Tsoukalos

31 posted on 05/19/2020 9:08:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: AggregateThreat

Strange how some think another world would have humans on it evolution does not make exact copies in different worlds.
It’s like when people thought man came from monkeys.


32 posted on 05/19/2020 9:31:05 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Sorry, it was 60,000.
https://www.foxnews.com/science/supersonic-tic-tac-ufo-stalked-us-aircraft-carrier-for-days-pentagon-report-reveals


33 posted on 05/19/2020 9:44:06 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Rockingham

In an age of modern photography every picture and video of a purported ‘’ufo’’ is blurry and out of focus. It’s as if the person witnessing it said “Wow! A UFO! Let me get my crappiest camera and take a picture!’’.


34 posted on 05/19/2020 11:05:34 AM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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To: jmacusa
Oddly, I have seen unusually clear and detailed UFO images challenged as "too good to be true." In practice, modern digital cameras have metadata attached to the image files. This information commonly permits experts to have confidence in the integrity of the image because the time and circumstances of its creation are thereby documented.

Ten or twenty years from now, the proliferation of high-quality cameras, new forensic techniques, hyperspectral imaging, and night vision cameras are likely to produce a flood of clear, reliable UFO images. Even now, enough odd things are captured on camera that an entire TV show is dedicated to such material as evidence of the paranormal. In addition, new forensic techniques will help to assure that UFO images are not fabrications.

35 posted on 05/19/2020 2:57:00 PM PDT by Rockingham
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