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Corona Virus Daily Thread #48 COVID-19 4/25/2020
many | 4/25/2020 | many

Posted on 04/25/2020 4:04:53 AM PDT by RaceBannon

New Thrtead, starting 4/25/2020


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; epidemic; pandemic
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To: riri
Woah, must listen.

This guy claims CV19 is an American bioweapon, created in Fort Detrick. He also claims SARS and MERS were bioweapons but they failed. I guess we must attack other countries with bioweapons all the time? He accused an American Army Reservist of being "patient zero", but has now retracted that, claiming "I was being fed bad information to entrap me, exactly in the same way an FBI informant was used on my way to Piketon, Ohio three years ago".

This guy is a KOOK, and makes his living pushy conspiracy theories. He makes Alex Jones look legit.

381 posted on 04/28/2020 12:29:41 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: ETCM

pushy = pushing


382 posted on 04/28/2020 12:31:12 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: PA Engineer

Dunno.

Sounds like somebody’s brother-in-law is heavily invested in that solution.

—agnes the cynic


383 posted on 04/28/2020 1:02:08 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ETCM

thanks for pointing that out.


384 posted on 04/28/2020 1:26:33 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DEPcom
Cause Alex Jones has been so off base.

I prefer Sean Hannity myself and Fox News. That's where I get the real story.

385 posted on 04/28/2020 1:32:52 PM PDT by riri (If people still dropping, most aint shopping.)
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To: riri

North Carolina pug becomes first US dog to test positive for coronavirus

https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/north-carolina-pug-becomes-first-us-dog-to-get-coronavirus/


386 posted on 04/28/2020 2:32:00 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: RaceBannon; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; ...
'The new flying etiquette': JetBlue becomes first U.S. airline to make flyers wear face masks (4/28/20)

Coronavirus: Top NYC doctor takes her own life (4/28/20)

Recovered covid-19 patient donates plasma to help other patients (Arkansas, 4/28/20)

Sioux City Diocese maintaining suspension of public masses (Iowa, 4/28/20)

Elk Point business reports employee who tested positive for COVID-19 (South Dakota, 4/28/20)

Walmart exceeds its goal on testing sites (Arkansas, 4/28/20)

Distillers drinking up stale beer (Vermont, California, 4/28/20)

New York Times Waves Off Hannity Threat: No Retraction Coming (4/27/20)

Reynolds eases COVID-19 restaurant restrictions across Northwest Iowa except Woodbury County (4/27/20)

Cedar County has 2 cases of COVID-19 (Nebraska, 4/27/20)

PHOTOS: The week in coronavirus coverage in Siouxland (Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota, 4/27/20)

Orange City man accused of price gouging toilet paper, cleaning products (Iowa, 4/27/20)

How to Run Alone Safely During the Coronavirus Outbreak (Runners Alliance, 4/24/20)

387 posted on 04/28/2020 2:49:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for your news links, TSR 🙂
388 posted on 04/28/2020 2:56:34 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) and cities, in all cases Democrat run and managed, when most of the other states are not looking for bailout help? I am open to discussing anything, but just asking?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1254782650679615492


389 posted on 04/28/2020 2:57:05 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

If he’s open to discussing it publicly, he’s getting ready to do it.

I wonder if Cuomo is playing hardball by threatening not to pay unemployment or something like that.


390 posted on 04/28/2020 3:01:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: LilFarmer

“North Carolina pug becomes first US dog to test positive for coronavirus”

I knew it: In ancient times, Pugs were bred to be companions for ruling families in China. Wikipedia.

The China connection..


391 posted on 04/28/2020 3:03:03 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: LilFarmer

Certainly!


392 posted on 04/28/2020 3:08:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our County has not been hit too badly. The local government has lifted all it’s restrictions, and the State Restrictions will be raised for the most part around May 4. I thought I’d just post a summary of where we are:

Tested = 157
Negative = 141
Pending =8
Positive = 8
Recovered = 4
Hospitalized = 1
Deaths = 1 (female in 20s)

3 cases were 30 or older
5 cases were younger than 30
7 cases were from contacts
1 case was unknown source

And yet, on facebook, people saying that the stay home mandate etc. should not be lifted. It boggles the mind. Clearly, people using good sense should be able to get back to a more normal existence.

Keeping a distance, being clean-washing hands, wearing masks, choosing to stay home or go to the store etc. are all within a person’s control and make sense for anyone concerned about the spread of the disease.

It’s not the flu-but why is the flu considered a nothing burger? The flu is deadly for elderly people in fragile condition. A little more attention to stopping the spread of CV should also help with deaths from the flu and pneumonia.

Some things that maybe should have been done all along-like staying home when you are sick, and washing your hands more often etc. etc.

Anyway, being concerned and following good practices doesn’t make a person a Fearper-it’s smart to be informed and proactive. Old saying = to prepare for the worst and pray for the best.


393 posted on 04/28/2020 3:21:55 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: greeneyes

That’s where I am, prepare for the worst, pray for the best. Our county has over 400 cases and 11 deaths now. Also, 79 hospitalized, we have one hospital here and that is a pretty big number for us for hospitalized.

However, our restrictions are all about to be lifted. People are out and about everywhere. It doesn’t appear we have peaked yet.

So we will be the canary in the coal mine. I’ll let y’all know how we fare!


394 posted on 04/28/2020 3:31:36 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

The reasons why BNO News hasn’t been updating:

Michael van Poppel
@mpoppel
I want to provide an update because we’re getting a lot of questions about what happened to BNO News on Twitter and the website. The short answer is that we’ll be back soon. 1/6

(More at link)

https://twitter.com/mpoppel/status/1254171134884483073


395 posted on 04/28/2020 3:44:43 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Trump to Order Meat Plants to Stay Open in Move Slammed by Union

By Jennifer Jacobs and Lydia Mulvany
April 28, 2020, 12:18 PM EDT Updated on April 28, 2020, 4:57 PM EDT

- President will invoke Defense Production Act after closures
- At least 6,500 workers sickened or in isolation, union says

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/trump-says-he-s-issuing-order-for-tyson-s-unique-liability


396 posted on 04/28/2020 3:46:20 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer; Black Agnes

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season
G.Wolff
...
Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.
...
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647?via%3Dihub

Comment: miht explain high hcw and nursing home severity


397 posted on 04/28/2020 4:50:51 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

More HCQ success (Italy)

Coronavirus - From North to South 1039 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine at home. The point on experimentation: “Collapse of hospitalizations”
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“We started administering hydroxychloroquine at home on March 27 and since then 231 patients have been treated promptly.” This was reported by Andrea Rossi , Extraordinary Commissioner of the Imola Local Health Authority . The results? “We had a 50% reduction in admissions to intensive care and hospitalization first aid .” The Director of the Oncology Department, Andrea Maestri , tells us that “two weeks after the start of home treatments we went from 15 to 7 patients in intensive care, and from 70 to 35 patients in non-intensive care beds: a noticeable drop “. The question at this point is whether the drop in hospitalizations could be due to the lockdown . “It is a hypothesis to be evaluated “ argues Rossi, according to which “what I can tell you is that there is growing evidence on the role of early antiviral therapy , which has as its base hydroxychloroquine, associated with antiviral drugs and / or antibiotics, and heparin “ . What is certain is that from March 27 to April 12, while the curves of “ contagions “ and “deaths” of the Emilia Romagna Regionthey grew, they had a opposite trend to Imola : they decreased. “I repeat, home treatment could have drastically reduced admissions to the emergency room,” concludes Rossi, “and we are waiting for further confirmation from a scientific publication .” The protocol applied to Imola was developed by the Extraordinary Commissioner Rossi and Pierluigi Viale , ordinary of the University of Bologna and Director of Infectious Diseases of Sant’Orsola .“
...

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=it&tl=en&u=https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2020/04/28/coronavirus-da-nord-a-sud-1039-pazienti-trattati-a-casa-con-idrossiclorochina-il-punto-sulla-sperimentazione-crollo-dei-ricoveri/5783544/&anno=2&sandbox=1


398 posted on 04/28/2020 4:56:46 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

We only have 23 beds in our hospital. So it wouldn’t take much to overwhelm it. Still, I don’t think everyone is going to just rush in mass all over the place.

I always stay home during flu season anyway.


399 posted on 04/28/2020 6:22:26 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: blueplum

I think long term lung damage is a given. Pneumonia by itself can damage lungs and pleura. Once a virus enters a lung cell it’s destined to rupture/die. How much of each lung is infected = how many ruptured cells. Will the repair be scar tissue or nice healthy cells? Studies of near drowning and pneumonia patients should be helpful; in some, lung elasticity is permanently affected.
Johns Hopkins says it may take 3 months to over a year for the lungs to recover:
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I had a serious case of Hong Kong Fluey when I was in college. It started with a mild sore throat one morning and got worse fast. By afternoon, I was barely able to breathe(cold air) as I walked to the building my car pool told me to go to, if I got really bad.

I collapsed on the bed in the ladies restroom and they took me to the dr. I already had pneumonia/bronchitis. I felt like the walking dead the rest of the semester. I was hacking and coughing up junk for over a year.

Then, every season that I got the slightest sniffle, I’d wind up with bronchitis for at least 5 years. Seems like there is always something coming in from China/Asian area.


400 posted on 04/28/2020 6:44:20 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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