Posted on 04/23/2020 7:26:19 AM PDT by know.your.why
I've had enough conversations with others about this and the sentiment is always the same. Its not just that the reported covid numbers dont make sense but how are they even possible? They aren't. They cant be. Seriously. How is it that this virus started on the other side of the planet 5 months ago and this country had its first case 3 months ago and now we have 10 times more cases then where it started??? There was a thought that since the virus can survive for what...a week...that it came over on Chinese imported goods. But that sounds way to far fetched. Just look at these numbers..they are unfathomable!
Because the chicoms lie. They had it X times worse than us.
Remember, this wasn’t started by some lone sailor that stumbled off a ship in Seattle. It was started by tens of thousands of infected CHinese who traveled here after their New Year celebration in Wuhan. How did that impact “the models”? In a “negative way?”
The virus started in China in November or December. We didn't shut off flights from China until January 31. The virus was spread by people.
The Chinese data are bogus. No one believes they are valid. The real numbers are probably exponentially worse.
Not arguing in favor of any present statistics, but here is how it works.
On, say 1 March you have 1 case. A week later you have 10 cases, a week later 100 cases, a week later 1000 cases, a week later 10000 case, a week later 100,000 cases, a week later 1,000,000 case and a week later .... well we don't know because somewhere in there we and everyone else in the world started exercising various forms of social distancing [even the Swedes].
But that is what happens with exponential multiplication.
Try this at home. Fold a sheet of paper in half and then again and again. How many times before it is so thick you can't fold it any more.
Even Andrew Cuomo gets it about exponential growth - "we have beaten this back to where one person infects .9 other people" and we are coping. If one person invfects 1.1 other people this explodes out of control."
Once you get your head around all of that, then the reported numbers make sense. Are they right? Well, there is some evidence that there were random cases, and death earlier than we knew. There is evidence that we are not finding our counting all the cases.
We can fix that. With a few thousand random but accurate across the nation serology tests looking for antibodies we can get a pretty accurate estimate of just how far this spread. With some DNA studies on evolution we can get a good idea about how long it's been here and where it came from (e.g. China vs Italy, vs).
But the numbers are not nonsense.
The CCP lies. During the Chinese New Year period of about 3 weeks, the people who moved into industrial cities like Wuhan for work go back to their homes, often rural areas, to celebrate with family. It seems likely to me that Chinese people are infected and dying at a higher rate - just happening outside the sight of the media and cameras... in the farmland and rural parts where healthcare is unavailable and the reporting and testing is sketchy at best.
And we know that at some point China tried to lock Wuhan down to internal China travel but let people fly out of Wuhan into other countries! Totally irresponsible. The bridge crossing from Wuhan to the adjacent province across the river was closed by the police, which eventually led to a riot between the two police forces when the Wuhanese tried to re-open the bridge the other province had to deploy forces to keep them out.
Someone’s lying? Hmmm....
How come we all believe that the Chinese are lying to us about this virus and the infected totals? Obviously, because they always lie. Conversely, how come we believe everything the msm and the Democrats tell us about this virus? Obviously, because they always tell us the truth?
We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Don't include me in your we.
It is not the same virus. Papers from Forster (UK) and Li show that there are different strains, the Asian strain is considerably less aggressive (per Li estimate, 270 times less).
The European strain is the one that is killing on the East Coast, it is the aggressive one.
To think that the Chinese hide the deaths is naive, one would then have to explain why the South Koreans and Vietnamese got off so easily too.... and they did better than China! Answer -- the same weak strain.
I look at another question. How are the numbers in SE Asia and South Asia so low. Vietnam is a case in point. Its numbers are infintesimal. Yet it borders China. Does business with China . India as well. Thailand, even Pakistan. It cannot all be accounted for by infrastrucure deficiencies. You cannot ignore dead bodies. India has one third the deaths on NY’s Nassau County.
I used the term we to highlight that a lot of posters on this site are believing and confirming in a weird way what the msm and the media are spouting off to us
No idea what you’re trying to say.
The upshot is we don't even know where we are at. When the dust settles it is going to take months of analysis to back the BS out of the reported numbers and come up with a realistic picture of what happened. Right now, it is just chaos and spin by the leftists who want this to appear far worse than it really is, and tank the economy in yet another attempt to thwart President Trump's MAGA agenda.
Malaria drugs?
See my post 12.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/alert-1-guidance-for-certifying-covid-19-deaths.pdf
Note the line (emphasis mine):
"...COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death..."
So they only have to assume it may have contributed. In many cases (medicare/medicaid or no insurance at all) there are financial incentives to make that assumption and report the patient as a CV patient.
Remove NY/NJ from the equation because that one hot zone is half the numbers.
Mass transit wasn’t shut down and they’re sending positive cases back to nursing homes. They’ve played every game they can to make this as bad as possible. Saves them money and makes the national numbers worse which reflects on national leadership aka Trump. Win win for them.
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