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I am not happy with the 'idiots' who run the company that produces Lysol.

Ozium is produced in Maryland and was developed in California.

People in this time of PANDEMIC should be able to disenfect their homes with a spray. Also places of business (such as hospitals)

1 posted on 04/22/2020 10:36:22 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher

https://www.pinesol.com/


2 posted on 04/22/2020 10:38:35 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: topher

AFAIK, Lysol is not effective against CV-19. I am open to correction on this. But be leery of those claims “kills 99.99% of germs and viruses”. That claim is based on limited in-vitro lab studies and not really tested against 99.99% of known pathogens, nor in the real world typical use.

Ever tried to read the back of a Lysol can? I have the super-size can and the font is still so small I need to photograph it with the phone and zoom to read it.


3 posted on 04/22/2020 10:39:39 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: topher

Totally toxic!


4 posted on 04/22/2020 10:40:59 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: topher

Ever read the warning label on a can of ozium?
Very impressive.


6 posted on 04/22/2020 10:44:40 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I'm essential!)
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To: topher
Chlorine bleach and water is all you need.

2 tablespoons to a quart I think.

8 posted on 04/22/2020 10:45:16 AM PDT by Eagles6 (I said good luck to him)
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To: topher
Maybe someone can start an American corporation to compete with Lysol.

Why do you even need such for Covid? . Mix some Dawn with some alcohol and hydrogen peroxide and some water in a foaming soap dispenser for hands. and spry alcohol an or hydrogen peroxide for surfaces (try not to breathe the alcohol mist).

I took a little liberty in the public interest of adding some color and making boundary lines visible in the table from https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

Biocidal agent

Concentration

Virus

Strain / isolate

Exposure time

Reduction of viral infectivity (log10)

Reference

Ethanol

95%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 5.5

[]

85%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 5.5

[]

80%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 4.3

[]

80%

MERS-CoV

Strain EMC

30 s

> 4.0

[]

78%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 5.0

[]

70%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

> 3.9

[]

70%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

> 3.3

[]

2-Propanol

100%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 3.3

[]

75%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 4.0

[]

75%

MERS-CoV

Strain EMC

30 s

≥ 4.0

[]

70%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 3.3

[]

50%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

> 3.7

[]

50%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

> 3.7

[]

2-Propanol and 1-propanol

45% and 30%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 4.3

[]

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

30 s

≥ 2.8

[]

Benzalkonium chloride

0.2%

HCoV

ATCC VR-759 (strain OC43)

10 min

0.0

[]

0.05%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

> 3.7

[]

0.05%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

> 3.7

[]

0.00175%

CCV

Strain S378

3 d

3.0

[]

Didecyldimethyl ammonium chloride

0.0025%

CCV

Strain S378

3 d

> 4.0

[]

Chlorhexidine digluconate

0.02%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

0.7–0.8

[]

0.02%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

0.3

[]

Sodium hypochlorite

0.21%

MHV

Strain MHV-1

30 s

≥ 4.0

[]

0.01%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

2.3–2.8

[]

0.01%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

1.1

[]

0.001%

MHV

Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N

10 min

0.3–0.6

[]

0.001%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

0.9

[]

Hydrogen peroxide

0.5%

HCoV

Strain 229E

1 min

> 4.0

[]

Formaldehyde

1%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

2 min

> 3.0

[]

0.7%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

2 min

> 3.0

[]

0.7%

MHV

10 min

> 3.5

[]

0.7%

CCV

Strain I-71

10 min

> 3.7

[]

0.009%

CCV

24 h

> 4.0

[]

Glutardialdehyde

2.5%

SARS-CoV

Hanoi strain

5 min

> 4.0

[]

0.5%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

2 min

> 4.0

[]

Povidone iodine

7.5%

MERS-CoV

Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012

15 s

4.6

[]

4%

MERS-CoV

Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012

15 s

5.0

[]

1%

SARS-CoV

Hanoi strain

1 min

> 4.0

[]

1%

MERS-CoV

Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012

15 s

4.3

[]

0.47%

SARS-CoV

Hanoi strain

1 min

3.8

[]

0.25%

SARS-CoV

Hanoi strain

1 min

> 4.0

[]

0.23%

SARS-CoV

Hanoi strain

1 min

> 4.0

[]

0.23%

SARS-CoV

Isolate FFM-1

15 s

≥ 4.4

[]

0.23%

MERS-CoV

Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012

15 s

≥ 4.4

[]

SARS = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome; MERS = Middle East Respiratory Syndrome; MHV = mouse hepatitis virus; CCV = canine coronavirus; HCoV = human coronavirus.

Copyright © 2020 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

9 posted on 04/22/2020 10:45:40 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: topher

Put an essential industry in a hurricane corridor.
What could possibly go wrong?


11 posted on 04/22/2020 10:47:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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I’m using a spray bottle with 100% Isopropyl alcohol. They say it’s not effective because it evaporates too fast. I’ll take my chances - it’s all I have.


12 posted on 04/22/2020 10:48:59 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: topher

“Ozium is produced in Maryland and was developed in California. “

Lysol is produced in the USA.


14 posted on 04/22/2020 10:49:56 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Shared this on another thread so thought to post it again for everyone...
...

From Lowe’s...

Pool bleach (10% chlorine) $4/gallon
25 oz chemical resistant trigger spray bottle $4 each (get a few)
Three drops dish soap

Add 25oz water to spray bottle
Add 4-tablespoons of 10% bleach
Add three drops soap
Seal, gently shake to mix and spray surfaces.

Always add water first, then bleach, then soap.

For one quart mason jar (32oz)...
Five tablespoons of 10% bleach and five drops soap.

For local travel wipes...
Take a 32oz . mason jar, fill it with 10oz of diluted mixture. Roll up three microfiber towels (also available at Lowe’s). Insert the rolled towels in the jar and seal. They will absorb the solution. Bring an extra jar (lid marked “used wipes) and an extra dry microfiber towel.
When leaving the store, grab a soaked towel, wipe down everything...hands, parcels, car door, phone,jar,. keys etc. Place used damp towel in the extra jar for later washing. Use dry towel to dry off hands. You’ll need to thoroughly wipe everything.

For spraying down parcels from Amazon etc...
Get one gallon pump sprayer. Mix 6.75oz of bleach (10%) and ten drops soap into one gallon of water. Seal, shake, pump and saturate all sides of box. Allow to dry. Don’t forget that Amazon employees touched the box inside, so spray it too.

Makes solution which is 5% bleach, 5000 ppm

FWIW, 6000ppm is strong enough to kill blood born pathogens.
6360 ppm is what’s in the Lysol spray disinfectant.

Calculator here...
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/health-topics/environmental-occupational-health/water-quality/chlorine-dilution-calculator

One gallon of pool bleach is ten times stronger than the 2% household bleach mostly sold at the grocery. Seal lid tightly when not in use. This method is a fraction of the cost of using regular bleach and the home improvement stores are and have been flush with supply, because nobody is aware of this use.

Store opened bleach in cool dark place away from metals you don’t want to rust (like the Harley)

Read label to confirm bleach content


18 posted on 04/22/2020 10:52:47 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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Bleach and water mix in a spray bottle. Spray surfaces, let sit for 2 minutes, wipe clean and repeat with damp towel. Let dry completely. Spray some on a towel to wipe vertical surfaces. I then follow with a good spray of Febreeze!!


21 posted on 04/22/2020 10:55:18 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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this is from the CDC (take with a grain of salt) but there was a good selection

Here are some of the registered disinfectants on the EPA’s list.

Clorox Disinfecting Wipes
Clorox Commercial Solutions
Clorox Disinfecting Spray
Clorox Multi-Surface Cleaner + Bleach
Klercide 70/30
Lonza Formulation
Lysol Clean & Fresh Multi-Surface Cleaner
Lysol Disinfectant Max Cover Mist
Lysol Heavy-Duty Cleaner Disinfectant Concentrate
Oxycide Daily Disinfectant Cleaner
Peak Disinfectant Wipes
Peroxide Multi Surface Cleaner and Disinfectant
Peroxide Disinfectant and Glass Cleaner
Purell Professional Surface Disinfectant Wipes
Sani-Prime Germicidal Disposable Wipe
Sani-Prime Germicidal Spray

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/05/prepare-for-coronavirus-epa-disinfectants-list-covid-19/4966691002/


30 posted on 04/22/2020 11:02:06 AM PDT by newmomster
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The company making Lysol is based in the UK but what's sold here is produced here.

"For 24 years, Gabe Scuderi had a job, not a purpose.

That changed one afternoon last month when he returned home from the Lysol factory where he works to find his daughter waiting for him. She had been watching news coverage of the coronavirus pandemic and told him that by manufacturing disinfectant spray, he was “literally helping to save the entire world right now.”

Mr. Scuderi, a 54-year-old Italian immigrant, remembers the moment in sharp definition: “It‘s the first time I felt this isn’t only a job. We’re on the front lines now.”

The explosive spread of the coronavirus has transformed the way employees see themselves at the Lysol factory in Somerset County, N.J., owned by U.K.-based Reckitt Benckiser Group PLC."

The whole article is good but it's the WSJ so probably behind a paywall.

Lysol Factory Job Becomes a Calling. ‘Hey, I Work at the Place That Makes That.’

31 posted on 04/22/2020 11:02:13 AM PDT by semimojo
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Bookmark for later read.


34 posted on 04/22/2020 11:02:56 AM PDT by Fury
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You might want to consult the EPA's List N: Disinfectants for Use Against SARS-CoV-2. It lists all products that meet EPA’s criteria for use against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

You want to find a product that has a short "dwell time" i.e., the amount of time a surface must remain wet to kill the virus.

I originally found List N from What Kills It? What Kills Coronavirus.

About five weeks ago, I was able to buy the Oxivir tb wipes that I found listed on the "What Kills It" page. They were briefly for sale on Staples.com; since then, they've been restricted to the health care and first responder market.

Be warned - it is hard to find any of the List N products for sale anywhere. I sign up for email alerts for "in stock" from various companies to snag some when it becomes available.

35 posted on 04/22/2020 11:04:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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We use caviCide spray, by Metrex. expensive but can buy on line. I think it’s good stuff.


36 posted on 04/22/2020 11:07:10 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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The other key fact is that Lysol uses hydrogen peroxide as a key disenfecting ingredient.

Which (hydrogen peroxide ) can be very dangerous depending on its strength, and is made up of the same two chemicals as another compound, hydroxylic acid, AKA hydroxyl acid, dihydrogen monoxide, hydrogen oxide, hydrogen hydroxide, which compound is a combination of two chemicals, except that hydrogen peroxide has only one atom of hydrogen and two of the other, reversing the order of dihydrogen monoxide.

Due to concerns about its dangers, hydroxylic acid has been the subject of many petitions to ban it.

But which shows how easily hoaxes can be spread, since hydroxylic acid is simply water. Hydrogen peroxide simply has two oxygen atoms to one hydrogen, v. H2o and as diluted to 3% or less, some even drink it (food grade).

38 posted on 04/22/2020 11:11:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Soap and water work as well as Lysol on viruses.


49 posted on 04/22/2020 12:14:56 PM PDT by dangus
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I happen to have a can of Ozium spray on hand, and when I look it up on the N list of things that kill Corona virus 19, it’s not there. So I even looked up the active ingredients. Triethylene glycol is only in one product that is approved and the combination is with something else. Ozium also lists propylene glycol as an active ingredient, and that’s no where that I could find on the list. Too bad. I guess I can’t use this as a backup when my Lysol spray runs out.


54 posted on 04/22/2020 12:58:44 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Soapy water works very well. It dissolves the outer envelope of the virus which inactivates it.


55 posted on 04/22/2020 1:05:53 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (It's no coincidence that the DemocRAT/media complex always sides with America's enemies.)
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