The Problem with Lysol [Disenfectant Spray to battle bacteria/viruses]

April 22, 2020 | vanity with source

[topher]

Wikipedia has info on the corporation that owns LYSOL.

Link to entry:

Reckitt Benckiser

This company is based in the UK and has connections to the Netherlands.

It is unclear where its manufacturing is done.

Basically, stores are out of Lysol products such as the disenfectant spray and Lysol wipes.

One can get OZIUM as a replacement.

According to literature on OZIUM, hospitals use OZIUM.

Right now (in my opinion), there should be disenfectant sprays and disenfectant wipes available.

Maybe someone can start an American corporation to compete with Lysol.

A good place would be the Texas/Louisiana Gulf coast because of all the refineries (chemical production capability).

In terms of Louisiana, Lafayette is the highest point (hence 'safer' from hurricanes between Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA.

The other key fact is that Lysol uses hydrogen peroxide as a key disenfecting ingredient.

[topher]

I am not happy with the 'idiots' who run the company that produces Lysol.

Ozium is produced in Maryland and was developed in California.

People in this time of PANDEMIC should be able to disenfect their homes with a spray. Also places of business (such as hospitals)

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

https://www.pinesol.com/

[monkeyshine]

AFAIK, Lysol is not effective against CV-19. I am open to correction on this. But be leery of those claims “kills 99.99% of germs and viruses”. That claim is based on limited in-vitro lab studies and not really tested against 99.99% of known pathogens, nor in the real world typical use.

Ever tried to read the back of a Lysol can? I have the super-size can and the font is still so small I need to photograph it with the phone and zoom to read it.

[CondoleezzaProtege]

Totally toxic!

[oh8eleven]

Ever tried to read the back of a Lysol can?
Just went through that with a can of Drano. Needed reading glasses and magnifying glass. Morons.

[READINABLUESTATE]

Ever read the warning label on a can of ozium?
Very impressive.

[Doc91678]

On the contrary. Lysol spray contains Hyamine 10X a powerful antiseptic. Lehn & Fink has manufactured Lysol in bottle form since 1896 and was proven effective during the Spanish Flu....

[Eagles6]

Chlorine bleach and water is all you need.

2 tablespoons to a quart I think.

[daniel1212]

Maybe someone can start an American corporation to compete with Lysol.

Why do you even need such for Covid? . Mix some Dawn with some alcohol and hydrogen peroxide and some water in a foaming soap dispenser for hands. and spry alcohol an or hydrogen peroxide for surfaces (try not to breathe the alcohol mist).

I took a little liberty in the public interest of adding some color and making boundary lines visible in the table from https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

Biocidal agent	Concentration	Virus	Strain / isolate	Exposure time	Reduction of viral infectivity (log10)	Reference
Ethanol	95%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 5.5	[]
	85%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 5.5	[]
	80%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 4.3	[]
	80%	MERS-CoV	Strain EMC	30 s	> 4.0	[]
	78%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 5.0	[]
	70%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	> 3.9	[]
	70%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	> 3.3	[]
2-Propanol	100%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 3.3	[]
	75%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 4.0	[]
	75%	MERS-CoV	Strain EMC	30 s	≥ 4.0	[]
	70%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 3.3	[]
	50%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	> 3.7	[]
	50%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	> 3.7	[]
2-Propanol and 1-propanol	45% and 30%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 4.3	[]
		SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	30 s	≥ 2.8	[]
Benzalkonium chloride	0.2%	HCoV	ATCC VR-759 (strain OC43)	10 min	0.0	[]
	0.05%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	> 3.7	[]
	0.05%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	> 3.7	[]
	0.00175%	CCV	Strain S378	3 d	3.0	[]
Didecyldimethyl ammonium chloride	0.0025%	CCV	Strain S378	3 d	> 4.0	[]
Chlorhexidine digluconate	0.02%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	0.7–0.8	[]
	0.02%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	0.3	[]
Sodium hypochlorite	0.21%	MHV	Strain MHV-1	30 s	≥ 4.0	[]
	0.01%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	2.3–2.8	[]
	0.01%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	1.1	[]
	0.001%	MHV	Strains MHV-2 and MHV-N	10 min	0.3–0.6	[]
	0.001%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	0.9	[]
Hydrogen peroxide	0.5%	HCoV	Strain 229E	1 min	> 4.0	[]
Formaldehyde	1%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	2 min	> 3.0	[]
	0.7%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	2 min	> 3.0	[]
	0.7%	MHV		10 min	> 3.5	[]
	0.7%	CCV	Strain I-71	10 min	> 3.7	[]
	0.009%	CCV		24 h	> 4.0	[]
Glutardialdehyde	2.5%	SARS-CoV	Hanoi strain	5 min	> 4.0	[]
	0.5%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	2 min	> 4.0	[]
Povidone iodine	7.5%	MERS-CoV	Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012	15 s	4.6	[]
	4%	MERS-CoV	Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012	15 s	5.0	[]
	1%	SARS-CoV	Hanoi strain	1 min	> 4.0	[]
	1%	MERS-CoV	Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012	15 s	4.3	[]
	0.47%	SARS-CoV	Hanoi strain	1 min	3.8	[]
	0.25%	SARS-CoV	Hanoi strain	1 min	> 4.0	[]
	0.23%	SARS-CoV	Hanoi strain	1 min	> 4.0	[]
	0.23%	SARS-CoV	Isolate FFM-1	15 s	≥ 4.4	[]
	0.23%	MERS-CoV	Isolate HCoV-EMC/2012	15 s	≥ 4.4	[]

SARS = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome; MERS = Middle East Respiratory Syndrome; MHV = mouse hepatitis virus; CCV = canine coronavirus; HCoV = human coronavirus.

Copyright © 2020 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

[Responsibility2nd]

I’ve read that Pinesol long ago went cheap on their ingredients and is no longer effective and as good as it was back in the day.

[MrEdd]

Put an essential industry in a hurricane corridor.
What could possibly go wrong?

[Greenpees]

I’m using a spray bottle with 100% Isopropyl alcohol. They say it’s not effective because it evaporates too fast. I’ll take my chances - it’s all I have.

[Moonman62]

AFAIK, Lysol is not effective against CV-19.

...

Lysol is to calm people’s temporary insanity. They simply have to believe that it works.

[TexasGator]

“Ozium is produced in Maryland and was developed in California. “

Lysol is produced in the USA.

[daniel1212]

Ever tried to read the back of a Lysol can? I have the super-size can and the font is still so small I need to photograph it with the phone and zoom to read it.

Or search the Internet: Lysol All Purpose Cleaner Lemon Breeze Ingredients. Active Ingredients: Alkyl (67% C12, 25% C14, 7% C16, 1% C8-C10-C18), Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chlorides (0.0860%), Alkyl (50% C14, 40% C12, 10% C16) Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chlorides (0.0216%). - https://www.cvs.com/shop/ingredients/lysol-all-purpose-cleaner-lemon-breeze-32-oz-prodid-1010692

[Buckeye McFrog]

Totally toxic!

At one time it was actually marketed as a feminine hygiene product. Look it up!

[monkeyshine]

I’m not sure that Benzalkonium Chloride is effective against the specific Covid-19 variant. I agree, it is one of only 3 ingredients approved by the FDA for antiseptics (the other 2 being Ethanol and Isopropanol). The FDA banned all others, like Triclosan. But the CDC does not have Benz Chloride on their list for CV-19. The CDC only mentions 60% ethanol or 70% isopropanol. Hence my confusion.

[SheepWhisperer]

Shared this on another thread so thought to post it again for everyone...
...

From Lowe’s...

Pool bleach (10% chlorine) $4/gallon
25 oz chemical resistant trigger spray bottle $4 each (get a few)
Three drops dish soap

Add 25oz water to spray bottle
Add 4-tablespoons of 10% bleach
Add three drops soap
Seal, gently shake to mix and spray surfaces.

Always add water first, then bleach, then soap.

For one quart mason jar (32oz)...
Five tablespoons of 10% bleach and five drops soap.

For local travel wipes...
Take a 32oz . mason jar, fill it with 10oz of diluted mixture. Roll up three microfiber towels (also available at Lowe’s). Insert the rolled towels in the jar and seal. They will absorb the solution. Bring an extra jar (lid marked “used wipes) and an extra dry microfiber towel.
When leaving the store, grab a soaked towel, wipe down everything...hands, parcels, car door, phone,jar,. keys etc. Place used damp towel in the extra jar for later washing. Use dry towel to dry off hands. You’ll need to thoroughly wipe everything.

For spraying down parcels from Amazon etc...
Get one gallon pump sprayer. Mix 6.75oz of bleach (10%) and ten drops soap into one gallon of water. Seal, shake, pump and saturate all sides of box. Allow to dry. Don’t forget that Amazon employees touched the box inside, so spray it too.

Makes solution which is 5% bleach, 5000 ppm

FWIW, 6000ppm is strong enough to kill blood born pathogens.
6360 ppm is what’s in the Lysol spray disinfectant.

Calculator here...
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/health-topics/environmental-occupational-health/water-quality/chlorine-dilution-calculator

One gallon of pool bleach is ten times stronger than the 2% household bleach mostly sold at the grocery. Seal lid tightly when not in use. This method is a fraction of the cost of using regular bleach and the home improvement stores are and have been flush with supply, because nobody is aware of this use.

Store opened bleach in cool dark place away from metals you don’t want to rust (like the Harley)

Read label to confirm bleach content

[monkeyshine]

Yes, it was used by women for self-administered abortions, and/or after sex to prevent pregnancy too.

[TexasGator]

“AFAIK, Lysol is not effective against CV-19.”

ROTFLMAO!