The Problem with Lysol [Disenfectant Spray to battle bacteria/viruses]

April 22, 2020 | vanity with source

[topher]

Wikipedia has info on the corporation that owns LYSOL.

Link to entry:

Reckitt Benckiser

This company is based in the UK and has connections to the Netherlands.

It is unclear where its manufacturing is done.

Basically, stores are out of Lysol products such as the disenfectant spray and Lysol wipes.

One can get OZIUM as a replacement.

According to literature on OZIUM, hospitals use OZIUM.

Right now (in my opinion), there should be disenfectant sprays and disenfectant wipes available.

Maybe someone can start an American corporation to compete with Lysol.

A good place would be the Texas/Louisiana Gulf coast because of all the refineries (chemical production capability).

In terms of Louisiana, Lafayette is the highest point (hence 'safer' from hurricanes between Houston, TX and New Orleans, LA.

The other key fact is that Lysol uses hydrogen peroxide as a key disenfecting ingredient.

[jeffc]

Bleach and water mix in a spray bottle. Spray surfaces, let sit for 2 minutes, wipe clean and repeat with damp towel. Let dry completely. Spray some on a towel to wipe vertical surfaces. I then follow with a good spray of Febreeze!!

[Governor Dinwiddie]

Many so called “disinfectants” will not kill pathogens such as norovirus and clostridium difficile. However bleach kills most every pathogen. But be careful. Clorox wipes will not kill C Diff unless they are “hospital wipes”. Ordinary Clorox non-hospital wipes do not contain bleach.

[monkeyshine]

According to the CDC that should work. You have to really wet the surface good though... and depending on the surface (fabrics etc) you don’t want to over-saturate it.

I think 70% Isopropyl Alcohol, 30% water is effective. The water in the solution will prevent it from evaporating too quickly.

I am not a doctor or biologist; but a better scientist than most who have signed onto that global warming bullcrap.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

Yes, it was. They changed the name from Doucheall to Lysol.

[Bob434]

[[Mix some Dawn with some alcohol and hydrogen peroxide ]]

Where ya gonna get those? Everyplace is sold out of those-

[monkeyshine]

I believe you are correct. They were using the jar of Chlorox wipes at work, and I read the label and told them they are wasting their time.

[ImJustAnotherOkie]

According to this legend Benzalkonium chloride is the only effective agent?

[Buckeye McFrog]

Yes, it was used by women for self-administered abortions, and/or after sex to prevent pregnancy too.

I can imagine. Pouring that stuff into the ol' hole would probably wipe-out any living thing.

[monkeyshine]

Don’t laugh. Show me the evidence it is effective. The CDC, which I admit I don’t trust much, does not mention Benzalkonium Chloride as an effective preventive against CV-19. They only mention ethanol and isopropanol. It could be for other reasons; they don’t mention bleach either.

[newmomster]

this is from the CDC (take with a grain of salt) but there was a good selection

Here are some of the registered disinfectants on the EPA’s list.

Clorox Disinfecting Wipes
Clorox Commercial Solutions
Clorox Disinfecting Spray
Clorox Multi-Surface Cleaner + Bleach
Klercide 70/30
Lonza Formulation
Lysol Clean & Fresh Multi-Surface Cleaner
Lysol Disinfectant Max Cover Mist
Lysol Heavy-Duty Cleaner Disinfectant Concentrate
Oxycide Daily Disinfectant Cleaner
Peak Disinfectant Wipes
Peroxide Multi Surface Cleaner and Disinfectant
Peroxide Disinfectant and Glass Cleaner
Purell Professional Surface Disinfectant Wipes
Sani-Prime Germicidal Disposable Wipe
Sani-Prime Germicidal Spray

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/05/prepare-for-coronavirus-epa-disinfectants-list-covid-19/4966691002/

[semimojo]

The company making Lysol is based in the UK but what's sold here is produced here.

"For 24 years, Gabe Scuderi had a job, not a purpose.

That changed one afternoon last month when he returned home from the Lysol factory where he works to find his daughter waiting for him. She had been watching news coverage of the coronavirus pandemic and told him that by manufacturing disinfectant spray, he was “literally helping to save the entire world right now.”

Mr. Scuderi, a 54-year-old Italian immigrant, remembers the moment in sharp definition: “It‘s the first time I felt this isn’t only a job. We’re on the front lines now.”

The explosive spread of the coronavirus has transformed the way employees see themselves at the Lysol factory in Somerset County, N.J., owned by U.K.-based Reckitt Benckiser Group PLC."

The whole article is good but it's the WSJ so probably behind a paywall.

Lysol Factory Job Becomes a Calling. ‘Hey, I Work at the Place That Makes That.’

[Does so]

Read the Spanish part.

;)

[monkeyshine]

Thanks for that chart.
But which strain is Sars-Cov-2?

[Fury]

Bookmark for later read.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

You might want to consult the EPA's List N: Disinfectants for Use Against SARS-CoV-2. It lists all products that meet EPA’s criteria for use against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

You want to find a product that has a short "dwell time" i.e., the amount of time a surface must remain wet to kill the virus.

I originally found List N from What Kills It? What Kills Coronavirus.

About five weeks ago, I was able to buy the Oxivir tb wipes that I found listed on the "What Kills It" page. They were briefly for sale on Staples.com; since then, they've been restricted to the health care and first responder market.

Be warned - it is hard to find any of the List N products for sale anywhere. I sign up for email alerts for "in stock" from various companies to snag some when it becomes available.

[sanjuanbob]

We use caviCide spray, by Metrex. expensive but can buy on line. I think it’s good stuff.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Thanks for that link. That supplements the EPA List N nicely. I bookmarked to my COVID-19 list of resources.

[daniel1212]

The other key fact is that Lysol uses hydrogen peroxide as a key disenfecting ingredient.

Which (hydrogen peroxide ) can be very dangerous depending on its strength, and is made up of the same two chemicals as another compound, hydroxylic acid, AKA hydroxyl acid, dihydrogen monoxide, hydrogen oxide, hydrogen hydroxide, which compound is a combination of two chemicals, except that hydrogen peroxide has only one atom of hydrogen and two of the other, reversing the order of dihydrogen monoxide.

Due to concerns about its dangers, hydroxylic acid has been the subject of many petitions to ban it.

But which shows how easily hoaxes can be spread, since hydroxylic acid is simply water. Hydrogen peroxide simply has two oxygen atoms to one hydrogen, v. H2o and as diluted to 3% or less, some even drink it (food grade).

[TexasGator]

“Don’t laugh. Show me the evidence it is effective. The CDC, which I admit I don’t trust much, does not mention Benzalkonium Chloride as an effective preventive against CV-19. They only mention ethanol and isopropanol. It could be for other reasons; they don’t mention bleach either.”

ROTFLMAO! Lysol and bleach are both listed.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

I think that if we dug into that, we’d find some EPA regulations at the bottom of the change. Been a long time since I researched it, like 20 years, but it is still effective as a germ killer, at least according to their label.