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Corona Virus Daily Thread #46 COVID-19
many | 4-18-2020 | many

Posted on 04/17/2020 8:39:57 PM PDT by RaceBannon

Corona Virus Daily Thread #45 COVID-19


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19
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To: blueplum

Disneyworld


301 posted on 04/19/2020 12:24:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: blueplum

There was a big Chinese stage show here in FL earlier this year, IIRC...dancers in elaborate Chinese costume, etc.


302 posted on 04/19/2020 12:28:56 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: All

“GE, Ford sign $336 million federal contract to make ventilators for coronavirus outbreak”

- see https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/ge-ford-sign-336-million-federal-contract-for-ventilator-production.html


303 posted on 04/19/2020 12:50:24 AM PDT by Fury
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s the heart of the observation, that they are “detecting iron”. But the significance is that the vital cells that once held it are no longer vital.


304 posted on 04/19/2020 12:58:11 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Myrddin

Several articles say that prevotella in the gut prefers high-fiber diets. An article in Nature points to prevotella also liking chronic inflammation conditions. The chronic inflammation link is easy - kidney disease, heart disease, asthma, arthritis, etc. More prevotella. Got it.

It would be interesting to know how diet ( levels of prevotella) affected morbidity each age group.

How many victims ate a high-fiber, glucose moderating diet, say, Mediterranean, or vegan, diet, which would/should be Vit C intensive by definition? (and theoretically more protective but producing more prevotella). As opposed to meat-and-potatoes diet with less fiber, and probably both less Vit C intake and more refined sugar intake? (theoretically less protective but producing less prevotella).

What role does prevotella actually play?

just a brief:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrgastro.2016.4


305 posted on 04/19/2020 1:00:28 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: piasa

thanks. That would do it. Disneyworld is another good guess.


306 posted on 04/19/2020 1:05:23 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Myrddin
Humans are incapable of making vitamin C. We must take it. We also have Prevotella bacteria in oral, nasal, gut, lung, and vaginal surfaces. Since we lack innate vitamin C generation, SARS-CoV-2 is free to infect any of our cells with ACE2, CD4, CD147 receptors as well as our Prevotella colonies. A bloom of Prevotella in the presence of sugar and reduced oxygen provides significant additional growth substrate for SARS-CoV-2.

An additional interesting fact of Prevotella infection. Type 2 diabetics suffer a high degree of gum infections from Prevotella. Just another data point.

Diabetes and periodontal disease

Insulin-dependent diabetic patients with periodontitis have been reported to have subgingival flora composed mainly of capnocytophaga, anaerobic vibrios, and Actinomyces species. Porphyromonas gingivalis, Prevotella intermedia, and actinomycetemcomitans present in non-diabetics are present in low numbers in diabetics. Increased glucose level in crevicular fluid in diabetics may favor the growth of some microbial species.

There are are other papers discussing this bacterial infection and gum disease.
307 posted on 04/19/2020 1:13:56 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: amorphous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feQIhzNpBLQ


308 posted on 04/19/2020 1:14:19 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: RummyChick

what tweet?

a Gary Crameri just co-authored a paper published 10 days ago. Is that the same one?

https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/08/1915400117
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gary_Crameri

I did an obit search, but the only recent Gary, was a Garry, and a very sad story, indeed:

Funeral for Voyager of the Seas coronavirus victim Garry Kirstenfeldt off limits to family

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-27/coronavirus-victims-family-unable-to-mourn-together/12097126


309 posted on 04/19/2020 1:23:24 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: RummyChick
I want to know why you are floating CCP type propaganda over the Chapel Hill study..

Flaming any source that tries to implicate USA involvement in a Chinese origin virus is 'ccp propaganda' ? In what universe?

Its like some deep plant backward propaganda.

Calling a Chinese virus a Chinese virus is Chinese propaganda? lol. Cute. What's deep plant pay these days?

Why do you refuse to admit the whole purpose of the study was to see if a sars like virus could jump to humans

We already knew Sars could jump to humans. And that it spread by airborne transmission. Epidemic, 2002-3. 2005 Study on Horseshoe bats as carriers of Sars viruses. Feb. 2008 Journal of Virology, the natural bat coronavirus cannot use the human ACE2 receptor to infect humans. 2013, Nature Medicine, Study on Ace-2 and the SHC014/Rs3367 sequences. 2013 Study on Sars amino acids/Ace binding sites. Sep 2015, combining MERS spike (SHC014) WITH BAT virus HKU4 using MA15 mouse backbone. 2018 Chinese study, based on antibody assays of villagers living near bats, providing evidence that direct human jump was unlikely, in the range of about 3% probability.

To clarify, the reason I mentioned MERS research earlier, Journal of Virology, Sep 2015, "Li and Shi jointly conducted a gain-of-function study... on the MERS virus and a bat virus (strain HKU4) in 2015. Since MERS virus can enter human cells but HKU4 can not, they introduced 2 single mutations in the HKU4 spike protein and found that the new mutant S protein can enable HKU4 to enter human cells. If they mutated 2 sites in MERS spike, the resulting MERS pseudovirus (experimental virus) cannot enter human cells anymore."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524054/

Did the 2015 bioengineering experiment of a not-occuring-naturally virus even relate to real-world conditions, tho? Did we learn more about MERS than we did about SARs? "“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature."

310 posted on 04/19/2020 4:21:41 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: RummyChick
(con't) the study involved the famous wuhan bat lady to boot.

and? It involved a lot of researchers. We even trained some of them on biosecurity at a Texas facility. Back in 2015 the world still had stars in their eyes concerning China, imagining an evolving, democratically leaning China ready to be accepted in the community of world citizens. Unfortunately over the past 5 years, China has proved us wrong, and they have become a problem child to boot. Is Zhengli Shi, the bat lady I guess, being accused of creating a bioweapon? I understood this virus to be naturally occurring?

And when the Us stopped funding and allowing this type of study....they funded the bat lady in china

Right. The US pulled funding in 2014. But the study was already underway so they got in under the wire. I'm a bit confused on 'funding' tho. What funding are we giving them? Or gave them? And to who? The Wuhan CDC lab inside the city or the Level 4 lab or the main office whatever they call it?

According to France, who built (co-built) the level 4 lab 20 miles outside of Wuhan, it didn't open until 2018, although it was completed in late 2015. The $3.7M the USA gave in 2015 could have been for equipment. Or maybe it was just for the Institute in general. Or maybe it was a bribe to keep the freezers running on the 1500 viruses the CCP had managed to accumulate.

Somebody should ask Obama. Or the NIH. Or maybe France is lying? Or maybe China is lying? We should know the story. I bet Pelosi knows. She says she signs all the checks.

"The 300 million yuan ($42 million) lab was completed in 2015, and finally opened in 2018, with the founder of a French bio-industrial firm, Alain Merieux, acting as a consultant in its construction. The institute also has a P3 laboratory that has been in operation since 2012."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/france-says-no-evidence-covid-19-linked-to-wuhan-research-lab-set-up-with-french-help/ar-BB12P4p0

311 posted on 04/19/2020 4:32:41 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Myrddin

Really interesting post. I thing pa engineer has talked a lot about prevotella.

Horseshoe bats who carry so many diseases and make their own vitamin C. Might be a key statement. I wish they were doing more studies with vitamin c iv to combat wuhan flu


312 posted on 04/19/2020 5:22:12 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: blueplum

The chapel hill study was not a mers study and you know it. I dont understand why you lie about it and deflect and try to pretend it was

Why not just say Chapel jumped a sars like virus horseshoe bat combo to a mouse.

Say it.

And that study involved the bat lady.

At least trump is doing better than you and talking about investigating whether this came from the lab..was it intentional.. Was it a bioweapon..and was US funding bat lady

He is interested

Not sure why you deflect..like someone with the CCP


313 posted on 04/19/2020 5:39:06 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: blueplum

I want you to explain why you pretended the Chapel Hill study was a Mers study on this thread. It makes no sense. You know it was not

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3836107/posts?page=21#21

It is some weird propaganda you are trying to do for some unknown reason

Do you work for chapel hill? Were you connected to the study by working on it or associated with those that did


314 posted on 04/19/2020 5:48:17 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

https://www.the-sun.com/news/703191/coronavirus-symptom-skin-rash/

Glad i didnt know this when i woke up with a softball size rash after having gone to the store that had a covid employee just come back as per overheard conversation..and the store still hasnt gotten back to me

Btw..hydrogen peroxide antiseptic spray twice a day and putting peppermint oil on it has nearly cleared it up. It was bright red in the beginning and smelled bad..now almost gone


315 posted on 04/19/2020 5:57:33 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I am o+
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/does-your-blood-type-increase-your-risk-for-coronavirus


316 posted on 04/19/2020 5:57:40 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: DEPcom

Good on the UK for dumping Huawei.


317 posted on 04/19/2020 6:06:02 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: blueplum

What is the Name of biology company that says yanling is alive and well in the propaganda piece you posted.

Commie China forced a dying Dr to do a proof of life pic holding his ID while in bed

Do YOU believe China that some unnamed company has Yanling. They have even scrubbed her pic

Perhaps she is alive but renamed and put here to work as a spy.

Perhaps she is imprisoned and in too bad of shape to do a forced video

Or perhaps she is dead


318 posted on 04/19/2020 6:16:41 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: Myrddin
The Corona virus lives in the Prevotella in the bat and its innate Vitamin C generation protects the bat from the Corona virus attacking its organs.

There is also some research that suggests that increased metabolism due to flight leads to increased body temperature which also works to keep such viruses from becoming lethal. I need to look for that article.

319 posted on 04/19/2020 6:29:53 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Fury

Anyone have more info or another source that verifies that a US Official said that matthew tye video is correct

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/4/us-scientists-say-china-hampers-search-origin-dead/

What he says is pretty damning as it relates to the job openings.

Note..they are about Sars like diseases..NOT MERS..for those that comtinue to make weird deflecting claims about MERS


320 posted on 04/19/2020 6:35:24 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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