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To: RummyChick
I want to know why you are floating CCP type propaganda over the Chapel Hill study..

Flaming any source that tries to implicate USA involvement in a Chinese origin virus is 'ccp propaganda' ? In what universe?

Its like some deep plant backward propaganda.

Calling a Chinese virus a Chinese virus is Chinese propaganda? lol. Cute. What's deep plant pay these days?

Why do you refuse to admit the whole purpose of the study was to see if a sars like virus could jump to humans

We already knew Sars could jump to humans. And that it spread by airborne transmission. Epidemic, 2002-3. 2005 Study on Horseshoe bats as carriers of Sars viruses. Feb. 2008 Journal of Virology, the natural bat coronavirus cannot use the human ACE2 receptor to infect humans. 2013, Nature Medicine, Study on Ace-2 and the SHC014/Rs3367 sequences. 2013 Study on Sars amino acids/Ace binding sites. Sep 2015, combining MERS spike (SHC014) WITH BAT virus HKU4 using MA15 mouse backbone. 2018 Chinese study, based on antibody assays of villagers living near bats, providing evidence that direct human jump was unlikely, in the range of about 3% probability.

To clarify, the reason I mentioned MERS research earlier, Journal of Virology, Sep 2015, "Li and Shi jointly conducted a gain-of-function study... on the MERS virus and a bat virus (strain HKU4) in 2015. Since MERS virus can enter human cells but HKU4 can not, they introduced 2 single mutations in the HKU4 spike protein and found that the new mutant S protein can enable HKU4 to enter human cells. If they mutated 2 sites in MERS spike, the resulting MERS pseudovirus (experimental virus) cannot enter human cells anymore."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524054/

Did the 2015 bioengineering experiment of a not-occuring-naturally virus even relate to real-world conditions, tho? Did we learn more about MERS than we did about SARs? "“The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature."

310 posted on 04/19/2020 4:21:41 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

The chapel hill study was not a mers study and you know it. I dont understand why you lie about it and deflect and try to pretend it was

Why not just say Chapel jumped a sars like virus horseshoe bat combo to a mouse.

Say it.

And that study involved the bat lady.

At least trump is doing better than you and talking about investigating whether this came from the lab..was it intentional.. Was it a bioweapon..and was US funding bat lady

He is interested

Not sure why you deflect..like someone with the CCP


313 posted on 04/19/2020 5:39:06 AM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: blueplum; RummyChick; null and void; PA Engineer; Mom MD; All

I have heard that fruit bats have been involved in some of these carry overs into humans. Like us these fruit bats cannot produce their own Vitamin C but get it from the fruit. Our lungs have a lining which contains Vitamin C and other antioxidants. Bad viruses cause a rapid drop in Vitamin C in the body. I suspect this is part of why the lungs are affected so badly, and one of the reasons I favor therapeutic use of Vitamin C. I wonder if scientists can find some common denominator in biochemistry that we and the bats have that is making this linking possible?


419 posted on 04/19/2020 10:05:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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