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COVID-19 cases in the US. Questions and concerns.
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Posted on 04/12/2020 5:38:34 AM PDT by Factuality

United States Coronavirus cases


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U.S. COVID-19 cases: 533,115 Active Cases: 482,033 Closed Cases: 51,082 Mild Cases: 470,562 (98%) Serious/critical: 11,471 (2%) Recovered/discharged: 30,502 (5.72% of total cases. My math Deaths: 20,580 (3.8% of total cases (533,115). My math.

1.Are these statistics reason enough to shutdown this great country?

2. Why is NY averaging over 8000 new cases and almost 800 new deaths every day when the city is totally locked down?

3. If this virus is this deadly, why did it take months before states start claiming deaths due to the virus? This is in consideration that it is widely reported that the virus entered the U.S sometime between Dec 2019 and Jan 2020

1 posted on 04/12/2020 5:38:34 AM PDT by Factuality
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To: Factuality

This virus has a glaring weakness. It can not penetrate the tough skin on your palm and fingers. But it can live for more than 48 hours on metal surfaces. That is why if everyone stops touching face with unwashed hands, the virus will be dead in a couple of weeks. Because your eyes, mouth, nose, penis, are the easy entries for the virus. Do not pee without first washing hands. Do not scratch your nose or rub your eyes without first washing hands.


2 posted on 04/12/2020 5:50:14 AM PDT by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to guarantee your wages.)
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To: Factuality
U.S. COVID-19 cases: 533,115 Active Cases: 482,033 Closed Cases: 51,082 Mild Cases: 470,562 (98%) ... 470,562 / 533,115 = 88.3%, not 98%
3 posted on 04/12/2020 5:53:54 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Factuality

At WUWT

https://wattsupwiththat.com/daily-coronavirus-covid-19-data-graph-page/#001

there is a graph of per-capita deaths time-aligned to the time of 10 deaths per million. On that chart, Sweden, with minimal lockdown, is doing very well.

I have a feeling we are being played here, folks.


4 posted on 04/12/2020 5:54:47 AM PDT by PlateOfShrimp (c)
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I have a feeling we are being played here, folks.

You know every time a bureaucrat in this country opens their pie hole, we are being schitte on

5 posted on 04/12/2020 6:04:11 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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Why is NY averaging over 8000 new cases and almost 800 new deaths every day

Manhattan's population density is 66,940 people per square mile. They can barely stay 6 inches apart, let alone 6 feet.
6 posted on 04/12/2020 6:05:11 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Factuality

1) Yes, those stats are reason ehough to shutdown. You’re looking at the stats with a shutdown. The 3.8% deaths to known cases, gives us an idea of just how bad this could be without a shut down. And we were hoping it was just 1%, when we decided to shut down.

2) Because the virus has a long incubation period. Most who will develop symptoms do so in 5-7 days, but some have gone 14 days. And there have been some annecdotal stories where people may have gone longer. Also the lock down hasn’t been a complete lock down. I read NY subways are still packed. Cuomo called out people for congregating on a bridge. If it spreads in the ventilation system of a building, people will be catching it despite being locked down. Lots of ways this could still be spreading. But the lockdown is working to an extent, as cases have leveled off. Hopefully they start dropping soon.

3) There is a lab between deaths and cases. Some people go on a ventilator for 20 to 30 days before dying. People have been speculating all over the board, I’ve seen last September. I think I’ve even seen last summer. Every cold and flu or stomach virus has turned into I had the coronavirus. It’s crazy. The first known case in the US was in January 21.


7 posted on 04/12/2020 6:17:27 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Factuality

They are inflating the morbidity numbers. We’re being misled. Their data is garbage which makes their models garbage which makes their predictions garbage.


8 posted on 04/12/2020 6:22:29 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: oh8eleven

Yeah, if all the people in NYC came out of their apartments at the same time, there would not be enough room on the side walks to stand.


9 posted on 04/12/2020 6:26:28 AM PDT by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to guarantee your wages.)
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To: DannyTN

My wife had the ChinaVirus two years ago. Lasted four weeks and it was brutal.


10 posted on 04/12/2020 6:36:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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Nice try, but you idiots have had to continually revise your death predictions down! These models and Fauci have been consistently
wrong! Your death predictions for the US went from 2.2 million down to 60K! Gee, your projections were only off by 2,140,000 deaths! Pfft! People should no longer listen to you! I’ll guarentee we aren’t even going to get to the 60K death toll you nuts are now assuring us will happen!

You’ve caused enough destruction to our economy and way of life! Just go away, and take your hysteria and pearls with you!


11 posted on 04/12/2020 6:43:58 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: Factuality; DoughtyOne

“Why is NY averaging over 8000 new cases and almost 800 new deaths every day when the city is totally locked down?”

Wuhan was exploding for at least a month after lockdown, and THEY were welding doors shut.

We do not understand the hotspot phenomenon now on display in NYC and the tristate region. But we do know it has happened elsewhere, it starts to slow about a month after lockdown but the fire smoulders and flares after that.

I’ve been studying this phenomenon. Population density and trains are both playing a role. Past a certain % of the population infected, I would not be at all surprised if the environment is so contaminated that it becomes a factor.

In addition to hotspots, there are cold spots, even in Hubei province and New York State, and studying THEM may be more useful than the hotspots.

NYC does not have guys in spacesuits fogging the streets and buildings.I wonder when Manhattan will be inhabitable again.

A key thing to know is, do cool spots near high intensity locations stay cool because of the lockdowns, or because of clean living and fresh air? The answer to this is literally life and death - and we have no idea.


12 posted on 04/12/2020 6:48:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Danny did nothing to the economy, Artcore. Not a single thing.

What are you attacking him for?

You’re the one that sounds hysterical. As far as I can see, you’re a lunatic.


13 posted on 04/12/2020 6:49:34 AM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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You’re the one that sounds hysterical. As far as I can see, you’re a lunatic.

Touche!

14 posted on 04/12/2020 6:56:56 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: chris37

Hysterical people like him who are pushing this hoax as a pandemic are making it very easy for politicians to destroy or lives and freedoms for safety! Did good old Danny lose his business or job over this hoax? I’ll guarentee he did NOT!

He pushes every bull sh*t horror story on this fraud he can find! He breathlessly pushed these bogus death projections as soon as the Fake News reported them! So spare me your outrage. Danny is indeed part of the problem!


15 posted on 04/12/2020 6:57:17 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: entropy12
Not to mention their great mass transit options:
16 posted on 04/12/2020 7:06:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Artcore; DannyTN

No, he’s not. People can post whatever they want, regardless of whether or not you agree with it or approve.

If you think there is some problem with any subject matter, then you should report abuse.

Danny, is not responsible for the actions of politicians, nor is he responsible for the actions of China. Danny is a victim of China, just as you are and just as I am. I also do not have a job, and am not currently able to generate income.

Whatever it is that has gotten to you in all of this, Artcore, is putting you in an even worse place than some of scaredy cats, and by that I mean me. You got to find a way to get a hold of that anger or otherwise negative emotion.

I’m not outraged. You sound like you might be, but maybe I’m reading it wrong. Take a moment for the soul today, Artcore, your soul. Do something that makes your spirit soar, something that you love and makes you feel free. Be safe, of course, but see if you might be able to do something like that today.


17 posted on 04/12/2020 7:13:48 AM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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Damn right I’m outraged! Good people have lost their jobs and businesses over 20,595 deaths from a bug! And people like Danny boy have been pushing this bull sh*t full throttle!


18 posted on 04/12/2020 7:20:44 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: af_vet_1981

Wrong denominator. They are calculating the percentage of currrently active cases that are mild. This excludes those who have recovered or died. 482,033 is the correct denominator.


19 posted on 04/12/2020 7:23:52 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Factuality
CDC panicked...and the IYIs cannot say they were wrong..

I could see the shut down the first week with a 2,000,000 death count...

after that no

New York city is tenement city..people live on top of each other..most share the same ventilation..

Could be immigrants from some country south of the boarder that do not have the flu every year

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-ne-flu-season-florida-20200108-smylr2hx5zhc7fnewajgajidfa-story.html

the virus has been here way before the Chinese Dr figured it was a Cornid virus...same in China

20 posted on 04/12/2020 7:28:42 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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