1.Are these statistics reason enough to shutdown this great country?
2. Why is NY averaging over 8000 new cases and almost 800 new deaths every day when the city is totally locked down?
3. If this virus is this deadly, why did it take months before states start claiming deaths due to the virus? This is in consideration that it is widely reported that the virus entered the U.S sometime between Dec 2019 and Jan 2020
This virus has a glaring weakness. It can not penetrate the tough skin on your palm and fingers. But it can live for more than 48 hours on metal surfaces. That is why if everyone stops touching face with unwashed hands, the virus will be dead in a couple of weeks. Because your eyes, mouth, nose, penis, are the easy entries for the virus. Do not pee without first washing hands. Do not scratch your nose or rub your eyes without first washing hands.
At WUWT
https://wattsupwiththat.com/daily-coronavirus-covid-19-data-graph-page/#001
there is a graph of per-capita deaths time-aligned to the time of 10 deaths per million. On that chart, Sweden, with minimal lockdown, is doing very well.
I have a feeling we are being played here, folks.
1) Yes, those stats are reason ehough to shutdown. You’re looking at the stats with a shutdown. The 3.8% deaths to known cases, gives us an idea of just how bad this could be without a shut down. And we were hoping it was just 1%, when we decided to shut down.
2) Because the virus has a long incubation period. Most who will develop symptoms do so in 5-7 days, but some have gone 14 days. And there have been some annecdotal stories where people may have gone longer. Also the lock down hasn’t been a complete lock down. I read NY subways are still packed. Cuomo called out people for congregating on a bridge. If it spreads in the ventilation system of a building, people will be catching it despite being locked down. Lots of ways this could still be spreading. But the lockdown is working to an extent, as cases have leveled off. Hopefully they start dropping soon.
3) There is a lab between deaths and cases. Some people go on a ventilator for 20 to 30 days before dying. People have been speculating all over the board, I’ve seen last September. I think I’ve even seen last summer. Every cold and flu or stomach virus has turned into I had the coronavirus. It’s crazy. The first known case in the US was in January 21.
They are inflating the morbidity numbers. We’re being misled. Their data is garbage which makes their models garbage which makes their predictions garbage.
“Why is NY averaging over 8000 new cases and almost 800 new deaths every day when the city is totally locked down?”
Wuhan was exploding for at least a month after lockdown, and THEY were welding doors shut.
We do not understand the hotspot phenomenon now on display in NYC and the tristate region. But we do know it has happened elsewhere, it starts to slow about a month after lockdown but the fire smoulders and flares after that.
I’ve been studying this phenomenon. Population density and trains are both playing a role. Past a certain % of the population infected, I would not be at all surprised if the environment is so contaminated that it becomes a factor.
In addition to hotspots, there are cold spots, even in Hubei province and New York State, and studying THEM may be more useful than the hotspots.
NYC does not have guys in spacesuits fogging the streets and buildings.I wonder when Manhattan will be inhabitable again.
A key thing to know is, do cool spots near high intensity locations stay cool because of the lockdowns, or because of clean living and fresh air? The answer to this is literally life and death - and we have no idea.
I could see the shut down the first week with a 2,000,000 death count...
after that no
New York city is tenement city..people live on top of each other..most share the same ventilation..
Could be immigrants from some country south of the boarder that do not have the flu every year
the virus has been here way before the Chinese Dr figured it was a Cornid virus...same in China
Deaths lag on average about 20 days from the day of infection.
New cases have been increasing because of the increased availability of testing. It doesn't necessarily mean that the number if new infections isn't coming down.
The best stat to use is hospitalization which does lag by about 5 days behind the date of infection but it's mostly not effected by the availability of testing.
Hospitalizations have been coming down a lot in NYC and NYS over the last few days.