Posted on 04/07/2020 11:38:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker
It struck me today that what is completely different about what we are currently doing with the COVOD19 Virus is completely different from all other diseases of the past.
In the past when a pandemic occurred in history, health authorities in the past quarantined the SICK who threatened the healthy population.
That is not what we are doing today. Turning aside from what worked in the past, sequestering the ill and sick in their homes, providing the needs in a safe manner, our authorities, or at least the progressive versions of authorities that masquerade as our Health Authorities and experts, are forcing the quarantine of the HEALTHY people in our societies!!! The progressive media and politicians pile on people who dare to suggest anything less than what is being done that imposes less than the most severe shut down of normal commerce. People are threatened with fines and arrest for daring to stray from their cells, er, homes.
They are insisting that those who are HEALTHY must sequester themselves from anyone who may potentially be infected rather than the other way around. It is the majority who must cater to the minority, the actually ill, the ones who are the actually sick. The MOST we should be doing is protecting those most at risk.
The stage was set with political correct speech. The majority was required to kowtow to the sensibilities of a minuscule minority lest their feelings may get hurt by the majority using majority accepted pronouns be used in addressing them instead of their self-selected, but in-obvious choices of gender optional desires.
Now, it is the vast majority of healthy persons who are being required to sacrifice their freedom and economic well being by being forced into quarantine due to our politically correct unwillingness to temporarily sequester those who may be coming from area where there is a potential viral infestation. What makes that sensible?
At the extreme, we are requiring “essential” workers to remain at their jobs, receiving no more than what they normally would receive in recompense, while the rest of us benefit from extended vacations and receive a government stipend, while they “slave” to support us. In worst cases, some government “masters” are speaking of the “enforced” enlistment of medical workers to staff hospitals for those who are sick. . . and are sending out the National Guard to seize medical equipment from one part of their state’s population to benefit another.
The world has been turned topsy-turvy!
It was certainly reasonable to quarantine those at highest risk; e.g., limiting contact between children and the elderly. My wife and I are currently staying away from the younger elements of our family. Kids are potential asymptomatic carriers of this stuff.
Unfortunately Dr Doom and Deborah are still calling the shots. Trump knows when he opens it up the MSM Is gong to crucify him with every death thereafter. In that regard we are prisoners because of the elephant in the room AKA the upcoming election. It is having a huge impact on everything like it or not.
Why the healthy?
Because unlike certain Asian Countries that did extensive testing and quarantining of the sick and those that came in contract with the sick, most of the Western world has chosen a different approach, the one you describe.
IMHO, I believe that is is because we had neither the Public Health manpower (politically incorrect) nor the number of testing kits available.
Coming from the State of WA, where the first confirm case happened and the first confirmed death, the CDC and FDA fought with Research labs over who was allowed to test whom, how the test were to be reported, and who was going to supply test kits. That delay in this state allowed the virus to spread well into the community. At that point there was little hope in tracking contacts, the numbers overwhelmed available Public Health personnel.
In other more authoritarian countries they quickly put resources into testing and immediately interviewing all who tested positive for who they were in contact with for the past week or two. Then they interviewed those folks to get them to quarantine as well as finding out who they had been in contact with. That took a lot of labor hours, which the various USA local and state Public Health services were not budgeted to provide.
Exactly.
Some don’t understand that a carrier with no symptoms can infect a person that will have a major life-threatening case of COVID-19.
The problem with the historical model has always been that almost everything is contagious BEFORE symptoms. Often times by the time symptoms hit you’re actually less contagious because a lot of symptoms is your body fighting it, so you’re body is killing it and has a handle on it. Functionally we’re not quarantining the healthy, we’re quarantining the “might have it, and spread it, not sure”. As the situation sits right now the only people we absolutely positively know don’t have it are the ones we’ve diagnosed with and got better, unless their body failed to make the antibodies (most of the time you do, but it’s not 100%). Everybody else could be Typhoid Marry.
Ebola is a fast-developing disease, pretty much requiring physical contact with the seriously ill to contract. IIRC you go from infected to dead in a very few days.
Covid19 has a _long_ incubation/contagious period before symptoms arise. It’s likely to spread thru a population fast well before anyone shows symptoms.
Those opposing the gov’t issuing “shelter in place” etc orders overlook how many people were going to do exactly that without gov’t directive. I was about 1 week from doing so, just hoping schools would close before I felt compelled to make the move to protect family. LOTS of people were on the cusp of stopping most socioeconomic activity, which would have mass-panicked into broad shutdown anyway. Best if gov’t can sanely coordinate what the herd is about to do in fear.
No, Jesus was in a cave for three days. But then he rose.
What you said.
I agree. The healthy and willing should be allowed to work to keep the engine going. You speak of the healthy being quarantined. It’s also a quarantining of the law-abiding. The lawless are fairly free to carry on as they’ve always done, healthy or not. The economy is being stifled because we’re slavishly following models that are being revised downward. I hope we get rolling again at the end of this month.
THEY LIVE
The last time I said “asymptomatic super carrier”, I got laughed at, called insane, and where do you psychos get this stuff.
They don’t get it, they don’t want to get it, and they ain’t gonna get it.
How come 99%, give or take a couple, of the responses to the OP are saying the same thing as I posted? Why don’t you post your answer to everyone of theirs as well? Just saying.
Spanish Flu in Creston, British Columbia 1918
If you didn't know better, you'd think you are reading today's news articles.
Vulgarity is no substitute for wit.
_I_ might stay out of crowds & lines, but I’m still physically close to a wife & 2 kids who would be likely to pick it up at store/school and give it to me.
2 weeks of asymptomatic spreading with an R0 > 3 means rapidly pervading any given population from one carrier, and each of that population carrying it to another population (teacher comes back from spring break in China, gives it to kids, who give it to parents, _then_ teacher starts showing flu-like symptoms and waits until it clearly becomes “not the flu” - too late, I’ve got it now and heading toward ICU hoping my heart doesn’t give out).
Sometimes it gets the point across. Pandemics aren’t a great place for wit, but the imperative of avoidance is summarized by appropriate use of profanity.
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