Posted on 04/03/2020 4:29:39 AM PDT by impimp
It’s just the flu, bro.
A few discussion points for today:
1.The scientific findings of HSD (health-differentiated social distancing) which were discussed in yesterday’s thread. To summarize - stop the social distancing/lockdown for the young and healthy - in fact the quicker they get infected the better, for purposes of developing herd immunity to protect the old.
2. Death count is overstated: As a fellow Flubro told me yesterday - people are dying WITH Coronavirus and not FROM Coronavirus. That is why the right hand side of the “curve” will be inflated relative to a normal viral spread “curve”.
3. Governments will use this to get more control over us - (see number 2 above - continuing a fake ongoing crisis is essential).
Yeah.
Oh, I was just using your text as an example of using “bro”.
No offense. Thank brah. :)
It is true that liberal biz is hurting, too.
Some states have closed all abortion clinics. The gay bars are closed along with all others, and homo parades and drag queen story hours are on hiatus.
Public schools long a net negative are shuttered.
Democratic convention delayed. The whole campaign season oddly muted.
And the big blue states are having escalating unemployment and no doubt big tax dives. Every economic indicator for them is no doubt nosediving. I might guess on average red states doing better.
I think he means to put the elderly and those with preexisting conditions in "camps." It's the only way.
We shouldn’t be “counting” that as death from CV19?
Of course it should be counted as a Covid-19 death. They'd still be alive if they wouldn't have contracted that virus.
I hope Trump can somehow pull it off. And you’re right, the media has got him trapped. Fauci was a mistake from Day 1, and even the left wing Guardian had an article about how the projections he was basing his estimate on had been shown to be faulty and either their original author had backed off on them. But if Trump reopens things, every single story will be about Granny’s death and Trump the murderer.
However, that said, he’s got to reopen and long before May.
The restrictions placed on Americans during the Spanish flu pandemic were NOTHING like what’s happening today. And there was a severe recession right afterward. The response to the coming economic collapse will be nothing like how the Republican president reacted back then. The likelihood of another Great Depression soon is very real. Do you remember how that turned out?
Maybe the signing is for added emphasis for the “journalists”
Current Iceland statistics:
22,195 tested. About 6.5% of the total population.
1,364 infections. 6% of the tested population.
45 hospitalized. 3% of the infected need hospitalization.
12 in intensive care. 27% of the hospitalized, and 0.9% of the infected.
4 dead. Currently running 0.3% of the infected, although that number will probably rise a bit more with time.
https://www.covid.is/data As of 3 April 2020.
NOT “just the flu”. Around 3 times worse than a typical flu. The question is if there are ways to handle it and keep deaths reduced without destroying the economy which funds the hospitals, research, etc - and without destroying the lives of millions of Americans.
I think the answer is yes. In my 60s, I’m willing to take the chance. I’m sick of the Wimps of America who only look at one side of the cost equation - deaths - without looking at the costs involved in their solutions. There is a reason I don’t drive an armored vehicle, even though a car crash might kill me!
‘and we are treated as heartless people that care about money more than people.’
this is what has really got my undies all twisted...virtue shaming, especially from snarky females...
“The death rate is now over 5%, as determined by the number of people who get Covid-19 infections and die.”
You know how many catch the virus? Really? Every government in the world would LOVE to talk to you! They only know how many have been tested due to high risk of infection, not how many have caught it!
Flubrah also might get confused with Flubra, which is a female Flubro.
I expect the deaths/infected will eventually go up to at lest 1%. NY had a low death to case figure early on, as did S. Korea.
Meanwhile Italy’s death/known case ratio has hit 12%.
I think we would all like to avoid economic damage. But economic damage was coming whether we locked down or not.
A controlled lock down followed by preventive measures, could minimize the economic damage. Hard to say because there is no control group.
No camps - voluntary and relaxed. There is no government compulsion here at all. We can’t treat this like a death sentence because it is not. Exposing some old people is not the end of the world. Many old people would prefer to not be locked down, in spite of the risks.
Check Iceland numbers to see how this is not a disaster.
Hard to say? You people are so stupid it’s a wonder you remember to breath.
I’ll tell you what AIN’T speculation. 10 million newly unemployed. Millions of lives and families ruined. Is there any way you thought this wouldn’t happen?
‘Thanks for you intelligent contribution, BallSack’
now I’m curious as to what this fellow said to get the mod so angry...?
According to Goldman Sachs the unemployed ‘could’ reach 60 million so anyone who thinks we bounce straight back up after this passes is delusional. The fearper crowd will soon be screeching about the economy even though they begged for this approach.
So you’re saying you don’t believe the numbers and that I’m making them up?
Seriously?
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