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Economy Panic
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Posted on 03/30/2020 8:08:30 AM PDT by DouglasKC

Have you noticed something?

There are a growing number of Americans who are in a panic about the economy.

Cries of "the economy will never recover if we're shut down too much longer" abound. Wails about "this will be worse than the great depression if it continues" are flooding social media.

This is despite President Trump's pronouncements that our economy will rebound quickly. President Trump believes that there is pent up demand that will explode once restrictions are lifted.

At least with the corona virus there was good reason to be concerned. It has ripped through other countries causing every government in the world to react in a similar way: institute measures to slow the spread so the medical system isn't overwhelmed. Every government has taken the calculus that doing nothing to combat the virus will hurt their economies in the long term. So they've taken short term economic pain to insure this doesn't happen.

Around the world and especially in the United States this strategy seems to be working so far.

Yet the panicky people who are worrying about the economy often look at the good results of what our government has done so far and say "See!! I told you the virus wasn't so bad!". They want to throw open the doors right now because they are fearful of what will happen with the economy if we don't. They have apocalyptic visions of President Trump presiding over a weak America while liberals gleefully dance on America's grave.

Yet stocks are once again on the rise. Investors are happy with what the President is doing to combat the virus AND for his vision of the economy. This is largely because before the virus broke President Trump had super-charged our economy. We were the strongest economically than perhaps at any other point in history...and we were getting stronger.

What happened with the virus has ONLY worked out in Trump's favor. It's now been proven that his vision of America first was absolutely correct. The virus has shown that we can't be dependent on China for manufacturing. It's not in our national interest. It's shown that we MUST control our borders and clamp down on illegal and legal immigration. President Trump's near daily press conferences have shown the American people that he's not the monster the news media portray him as.

Yet for all these positives those who believe that our economy can't take a two or three month slowdown are wringing their hands and screaming like little girls who have seen a spider.

As President Trump says this isn't going to stop us. We're going to bounce back faster and stronger than anyone can imagine...IF we follow his recommendations to combat the virus. If we let up too soon we're back to square one. If too many people figure they know more than President Trump does and flout his recommendations we're also back to square one.

Don't panic. Stick with the program that President Trump and his team have instituted to both combat the virus and keep the economy strong.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: corona; coronavanity; economy; trump; virus
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To: NELSON111

You are living in fantasy land. Maybe when we have 30 million people unemployed by the end of April + another 20 million with hours cut or pay reduced you’ll get it through your thick head, cause that is where this is going.


121 posted on 03/30/2020 9:23:04 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: tatown

Well we’re not at 20% yet. Let’s see what happens. I think the economy will bounce back as long as people feel safe going back to work.


122 posted on 03/30/2020 9:24:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
The world has nowhere else to turn except here when this is done. Everyone in the world still wants U.S. dollars, so we will print as much as we want and the demand will still be strong. It’s a book entry in our financial system. It’s not a mortgage, it doesn’t ever have to be paid back...the biggest effect will be a little more inflation over time - a veritable cold in the face of metastatic cancer.

Excellent post! No other country can compete with us.

123 posted on 03/30/2020 9:24:51 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Well I would't put it that way of course. That's an insulting characterization of what I said and meant.

Of course you wouldn't put it that way. But don't try to deny that you said you anticipate profiting in the long run from seeing competitors driven out of business. Implied is that the longer the shutdown goes on, the less competitors will survive.

The effect on the economy looks to me to be caused more by government action than by a natural event, like a flood or drought or hurricane. I suppose though there are times that a government over-reaction could reach the levels of being a disaster. It's pointless to express your anger to a hurricane. If the government actions cause the damage to be a lot worse, it makes sense to be vocal in expressing your disapproval with those actions of the government.

124 posted on 03/30/2020 9:32:26 AM PDT by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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To: DouglasKC

After World War II we were the only country in the world with our infrastructure and industrial capacity intact. THAT was the single biggest reason why we recovered so quickly.


125 posted on 03/30/2020 9:33:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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To: DouglasKC

Down 300,000+ here :-(

Hope it comes back....

Oh well, I can live in a shack and browse FR all day and sleep on a cot I suppose.


126 posted on 03/30/2020 9:36:24 AM PDT by Bobalu (We are going to witness such a circus between now and Nov that we should have to buy tickets)
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To: rb22982
I believe you are the first person I have ever communicated with in that industry. I'm sure many others, within your industry, found themselves out of a job without anything but unemployment to fall back on. Does your situation require you to go into corp HQ, or can you accomplish your work from home? At least at 80% it means that your dipping into savings is greatly reduced, if needed at all. I doubt we will see this carried any later than end of April. This is really all about buying time to ramp up supplies in the event a tsunami of cases develops suddenly, to mitigate impacts to healthcare structures. If it goes on beyond the end of April then we will most likely have other deadly issues to contend with in this country. For then we start entering the SHTF scenarios.

Hopefully you are prepared for that kind of scenario. If not stock up on canned foods, and other items that may be needed to assist in survival, if you can.

Stay safe my FRiend.

127 posted on 03/30/2020 9:43:29 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DouglasKC

128 posted on 03/30/2020 9:44:36 AM PDT by Bobalu (We are going to witness such a circus between now and Nov that we should have to buy tickets)
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To: DouglasKC
1) Yes, nothing commands confidence in investing than knowing the government can shut you down and bankrupt you and then let the BK courts sell your assets to the highest bidder on the other side
2) I guarantee you it will take that long. I have a lot of evidence that it will and even more assumptions to back the evidence.

You seriously have no clue. The media/dems WANT this shutdown - they know what is very likely to happen - this will drastically reduce Trump's chance of re-election

129 posted on 03/30/2020 9:44:55 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: DouglasKC; All

Hollywood gets the shaft as well.....big blockblusters planned for the summer will go bust...watch for Hollywood types to start clamoring for the nation to get back to normal so people will again spend money to watch movies where they tear down America.


130 posted on 03/30/2020 9:46:12 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

So you are saying you believe in MMT garbage then? You can’t print wealth or jobs.


131 posted on 03/30/2020 9:48:01 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Wissa
Of course you wouldn't put it that way. But don't try to deny that you said you anticipate profiting in the long run from seeing competitors driven out of business. Implied is that the longer the shutdown goes on, the less competitors will survive.

What would your reaction be? Shutdown the entire company out of sympathy for our competitors? Don't make plans to come out stronger? Don't forecast the impact on the market? That's all that's happening despite you wanting to make it an evil thing.

132 posted on 03/30/2020 9:48:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: xp38

Nor do the PC police keep Chris Brown’s “Heat” from the number one spot


133 posted on 03/30/2020 9:48:32 AM PDT by Kalija
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To: mdmathis6
Hollywood gets the shaft as well.....big blockblusters planned for the summer will go bust...watch for Hollywood types to start clamoring for the nation to get back to normal so people will again spend money to watch movies where they tear down America.

OH I didn't even think of that...great point.

134 posted on 03/30/2020 9:49:19 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: CharleysPride

LOL the billionaires and money managers LOVES this kind of event! They can buy companies on the cheap after bankruptcy or right before hand.


135 posted on 03/30/2020 9:49:57 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: DouglasKC
Yet stocks are once again on the rise. Investors are happy with what the President is doing to combat the virus AND for his vision of the economy.

This, from a "We're all gonna die!" flubot?

Everybody has an opinion, and everyone's an expert. Like many other recently minted 'experts,' you don't seem to understand the difference between Wall Street and Main Street.

Main Street businesses aren't listed on the NYSE.

136 posted on 03/30/2020 9:51:01 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: calljack

137 posted on 03/30/2020 9:51:36 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: rb22982
Yes, it is going to be a bloodbath. I believe they will try to print their way out of it.

I'm guessing the plan is for the government to hire people to pick money off the money trees. I'm pretty sure that's where money comes from.

138 posted on 03/30/2020 9:52:41 AM PDT by Wissa ("Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult." - Michael Corleone)
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To: rb22982
1) Yes, nothing commands confidence in investing than knowing the government can shut you down and bankrupt you and then let the BK courts sell your assets to the highest bidder on the other side 2) I guarantee you it will take that long. I have a lot of evidence that it will and even more assumptions to back the evidence. You seriously have no clue. The media/dems WANT this shutdown - they know what is very likely to happen - this will drastically reduce Trump's chance of re-election

I think Trump is smarter than that. I think this will all be over two or three months before the election and everyone KNOWS this wasn't trump's fault so even if the economy is horrible Trump can say "I saved the country from this virus. I told you what would happen if we let China push us around. I told you what would happen if we let people come over the borders unrestricted. I tried to stop this but was fought by the democrats tooth and nail every step of the way. This was THEIR virus and their economic ruin brought about by their obstruction and their policies.

It's a real easy point to make because it's all true.

139 posted on 03/30/2020 9:54:52 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
How many of those companies were only alive because of helicopter money in the first place?

The Congress is to blame for setting up US Tax Law such that it was more tax-advantaged to fund US businesses wtih debt than with stock purchases.

140 posted on 03/30/2020 9:55:13 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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