Posted on 03/29/2020 11:32:40 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
It's time (beyond time, actually) for Trump to be bold and green light the country getting back to work. That will put huge pressure on the cities, counties and states that did their own lockdown. The unemployment and suffering are going to be epic as it is.
The time to end this is NOW. This virus is no different than anything else that has come our way and we never shut the government down in the past.
The idiot talking heads like Fauci, have been WRONG, just like the Imperial College modelling. All agenda driven.
Also, I think cuomo is lying about deaths to try to justify his cry for more ventilators (which he got busted lying about).
Time to end it and get back to work.
The infections is running through the country like a fire, in some places it hasn't even really started.
In a couple weeks (or more, or less) we'll start to see antibody tests, hopefully approval of chloro, azri, zinc etc. as proven therapies. AND we'll start to see some of exponential curves peak.
Then we're no longer working off data MODELS but actually working off data (especially with antibody tests)
THEN we can predict the future.
Right now, we can't predict the future, and a complete breakdown of the healthcare system in any one metropolitan area will be more grounds for panic and a political disaster (which by the way matters -> politics matters on this, not that it should ... but it really really really does because if you want pandemic that really kills freedom, give Trump a Katrina and put the dems in power next year)
So the wise choice are about 5 different reasons is to continue on course until we have more information, more testing, hopefully viable therapies, and REAL data after those things have happened, PLUS whatever benefit the semi-lockdowns do for flattening the curve and hence the country avoiding a psychological, media, political - and physical death count panic nightmare.
YES some are panicking, but that panic is a reality and therefore must be built into how a president leads a country through it. this is as much a mind game as a physical game.
I'd say Trump is playing it just about right GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW AT THE MOMENT.
The idiots who merely say 'just flu, go back to work' WILL look back and say 'see, I was right mostly' -> but what you don't understand are the secondary complications.
So wake the hell up and see the whole picture you simplistic morons - the 'go back to work now' crowd! (I say with affection, well maybe not affection, but not malice and with a smile.) There are still a number of unknowns still built into this. Those things have to shake out before a wise leader proceeds on a set of assumptions. Trump has covered all the bases by saying 'I want to be open by Easter but I'm flexible'
In the end, the country will open up area by area (weather that's county by county in some states, or state by state in some regions,) not all at once, because each population is its own outbreak staggered in time.
Once the establish that the little f*cker is in fact genetically stable, and we know immunity is robust, then everybody who's had it (which is likely 10 times what we know -> but in a few weeks we have antibody tests to identify them) THEY can go back to work, the risk pool has shrunk, and the demographics most in danger, or those quickly identified to have contracted it, can be pulled out of the population on an individual bases. Since those most at risk aren't in the workforce anyway, no big deal there.
But both extremes are moronic. I don't think here we have much of the panicked extreme, but if you are of the 'yeah just get back to work' extreme, then I'm glad you're not running my country ... you probably couldn't run a classroom full of kids.
What would you say if Trump keeps the official admonishments and policies in place after Easter weekend?
Would you become an anti-Trumper? Or would you accept his reasoning?
President Trump under the Constitution is not responsible for closing schools or businesses. These powers are held by the governors and local officials of every state. Even their power is really an illusion.
If they all told people it was ok to go back to work a lot of people would still stay home and take care of their kids because they don’t trust the officials to know what they are doing. Some people would go back just like some people go back in the water after a shark sighting but most people will wait to see if the shark eats any of the eager swimmers before putting their kids in the water.
I’m not saying any of this is right or rationale but that’s how human behavior works. The same holds for getting back into airplanes, restaurants, and movie theaters. Until people think the virus is under control it doesn’t matter what public officials want.
“but in a few weeks we have antibody tests to identify them”
That can be done randomly and statistically, and would allow for informed decision making.
Randomly sample 10 from every county in the country. Or make that proportional based on population.
And it could be completed in a few weeks. Via the US Mail.
A much needed voice of reason.
Go back to work and reverse the decision to close the schools for the rest of the year.
The fearmongers have already done enough damage.
good luck with that. he’s a hillary loving democrat that can’t keep his ‘opinion’ straight to save his soul
I’ll go with whatever President Trump decides. He has far more information than we do no matter how close you’re following the virus statistic sites. I’m planning one more week of home isolation before going back to work. I work in shipbuilding for BIW, and because we build ships for the Navy we’re considered “critical infrastructure”, thus BIW cannot be shut down. BIW gave everybody the option of taking two weeks off using vacation time or without pay. Apparently only about 40% of the workforce have been showing up because people decided to play it safe and isolate for a couple of weeks, myself included.
I’m voting for him. But I believe others are controlling the narrative. I think Trump’s first instinct, that this was a hoax meant to screw him over, was correct.
Yeah agreed on the smaller stat sampling on the antibody tests ...
Maybe a phased return to work.
Yes!
So the wise choice are about 5 different reasons is to continue on course until we have more information, more testing, hopefully viable therapies, and REAL data after those things have happened, PLUS whatever benefit the semi-lockdowns do for flattening the curve and hence the country avoiding a psychological, media, political - and physical death count panic nightmare.
YES some are panicking, but that panic is a reality and therefore must be built into how a president leads a country through it. this is as much a mind game as a physical game.
I'd say Trump is playing it just about right GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW AT THE MOMENT.
Nice post. Thank you.
Everyone knows better than Trump.
Of course. That’s because they all have access to better scientists and better data than he does. And because they’re generally just smarter than him.
No! Trump wants to do this and he is fighting Dr. FARCE.. The know it all..
The infections is running through the country like a fire, in some places it hasn't even really started.
In a couple weeks (or more, or less) we'll start to see antibody tests, hopefully approval of chloro, azri, zinc etc. as proven therapies. AND we'll start to see some of exponential curves peak.
Then we're no longer working off data MODELS but actually working off data (especially with antibody tests)
THEN we can predict the future. Right now, we can't predict the future, and a complete breakdown of the healthcare system in any one metropolitan area will be more grounds for panic and a political disaster (which by the way matters -> politics matters on this, not that it should ... but it really really really does because if you want pandemic that really kills freedom, give Trump a Katrina and put the dems in power next year)
So the wise choice are about 5 different reasons is to continue on course until we have more information, more testing, hopefully viable therapies, and REAL data after those things have happened, PLUS whatever benefit the semi-lockdowns do for flattening the curve and hence the country avoiding a psychological, media, political - and physical death count panic nightmare.
Yes. Yes.
I hear you but think you’re a week too soon.
And Fire Dr Death Fauci.
Americans are about to be faced with a reality they have no control over. It's one thing to stay under voluntary house arrest in the name of "public safety" when the weather is cold and the sky is gloomy. But Spring is about to bloom in its full glory ... long warm, sunny days and pleasant evenings. And as the Chinese Flu runs its course and we learn this scary virus may be no more dangerous than the "regular flu" I expect people will take matters into their own hands and do what they think is best for themselves and their families.
What's the alternative? Are you really going to tell your kids they can't go to the local park or playground until the Fourth of July as Democrat governor Newsom of California has stated (well, he did say his mandated restrictions on living could last for another 12 weeks)? Are young people on the hunt for other young people for any number of reasons going to continue to "shelter in place" rather than go to a concert or a ball game or a friend's BBQ party on a beautiful Spring evening? Are business owners who have worked hard for decades to build their businesses continue to kneel at the feet of the elected and unelected bureaucrats drunk with their vastly expanded power? Will Americans and American families who who have been watching their plans for the future continue to fade under the current mandates going to continue to stand idly by and watch elected politicians demand they continue to obey every new edict they issue, seemingly on a daily basis once the hysteria has dissipated? I don't think so.
Once the media/social media-driven hysteria withers in the face of hard data, Americans will realize that the politicians who have assumed powers far beyond any authority granted them in the various state constitutions were elected to serve us ... not the other way around ... that we are not here to make the politicians look good and wise in their superior intellect.
Our mistake was not that we aquiesced meekly to the reasonably effective and good intentioned advice provided by the "experts", but that we allowed, through our elected officials, those "experts" to direct and control public policy. While experts, by definition, excel in their respective fields, their narrow focus results most often in unwise public policy decisions which, as in this instance, has done widespread significant damage to our economy and to our society which will take considerable time to repair (and that's assuming there's not another "crisis" on the horizon ... such as "climate change".)
I remain steadfast in my belief that the American spirit for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, although damaged by the current breathless panic and hysteria, remains intact and will resurface strongly over the next few weeks, and that our elected officials will be brought back to the reality of limited authority over how Americans live their lives.
Yep, it’s time to go.
Absolutely agree!!!
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