Posted on 03/04/2020 12:18:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The coronavirus outbreak came in the middle of flu season in the Northern Hemisphere.
Many people have highlighted the overlapping symptoms of the flu and COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Even President Donald Trump asked pharmaceutical execs if the flu vaccine could be used to stop the coronavirus.
But Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization, warned against taking such comparisons too far.
"This virus is not SARS, it's not MERS, and it's not influenza," Ghebreyesus said in a press conference on Tuesday. "It is a unique virus with unique characteristics."
The most crucial difference between the flu and the coronavirus is that the latter has been far deadlier. Whereas about 0.1% of people who get the flu die, the coronavirus' death rate is now at about 3.4%, based on the current numbers of cases and deaths.
The fatality rate of the novel coronavirus is still evolving, however, as more cases are confirmed. Many health experts believe that the rate will drop as the number of cases rises. That's because an estimated 80% of coronavirus cases are mild, and patients checking into hospitals have the most severe symptoms. People with symptoms mild enough to recover at home without seeking medical treatment aren't counted in the official totals.
The novel coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, in December has killed over 3,200 people and infected nearly 94,000 people, mostly in China. It has spread to at least 80 other countries. The US has confirmed more than 125 cases and at least nine deaths.
Older people are far likelier to die from the coronavirus than younger people, and the same is true for the flu — though not to the same extent.
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In addition we do not know if there are people who are infected but show no symptoms even though they may have been infected beyond the normal recognized incubation time. Of there are then that would drive the percentage rate down. There are just too many unknowns at this time. It’s a big story that has captured the attention of a lot of people, so the news organizations feed those obsessed with fear because it is good for business, and to hell with public safety concerns.
LOL!
....the states are international in nature and may not reflect the actual odds in your particular area, THE SAME STANDARD OF HEALTH CARE OF OTHER COUNTRIES, AND THE POLITICAL SITUATION OF THE STATE YOU LIVE IN. (THERE FIXED IT).
aka move the decimal two places to the right
Yes and they will pay the price. Whether a person believes that this virus is real or imagined, realistic or hyped, never underestimate the public’s ability to panic at a moment’s notice and make the shelves bare. It is happening in Austin right now for certain items, due to the threat of impending SXSW that will bring in a bunch of internationals of unknown health status. Whether a person is a believer or a scoffer (plenty of those on FR) it would be wise to make a few extra trips to the grocery store and stash a few weeks supply of essentials so you aren’t running all over town or to other towns trying to find supplies. No fun.
Only REAL FReepers don’t read the article, don’t have a TV (and tell you that in a post on...TV), did not care about the NFL and don’t watch football (and tell you that in a post on....the NFL), and commenting “needs more range time” on an article about a gun owner shooting and rendering a bad guy in critical condition.
Q: With everyone in China and elsewhere being told to shelter in place/don't go out, what will we be dealing with in the fall?
A: Coronababies
Aw. I wanted him do do it the hard way!
Lethality, not the more vague ‘deadly’. Water can be deadly in a generic sense. Strichnine is more lethal. Drink enough water and it can kill ya; drink strychnine in much smaller dose and it will kill ya.
Hadn't thought of that. How do they differ from our elderly?
Sounds like the shoving and hair pulling over Christmas toys in years past. I think it might be the desire to acquire, rather than any dire need at this point. Some people get too caught up in it. I am doing my best to stay out of the fray.
i know- things will get crazy very quickly- just look what happens when Popeye’s Chicken runs short on chicken and people have to wait a few extra minutes- they go berzerk- think what will happen when the toilet paper runs out, or the canned spam runs out-
Not counting figures out of China(which are suspect), and as a function of “completed” or “resolved cases” the mortality rate as compared to the total of resolved cases( the number of dead +recovered) actually approaches 33 per cent. Most of those deaths are elderly, frail or lung damaged and/or immune compromised. The mortality rate will probably drop as more people get sick but survive and they recover....another words amongst the “resolved” there will be many more recovered than dead. Still the disease is appearing to be hitting and taking out some of our most vulnerable first.
Even if you throw the “official cases” from China back into the mix, when comparing the total number of “resolved”(not the active) cases vs deaths, the morality rate is still around 6.6 per cent.
So of those 125 cases what is the total number of resolved cases(recovered persons + dead persons)? If 50 percent are still active cases(say 62) then 63 may be “resolved”. Figure mortality rate from the 9 going into 63 or 1 out of every 7 persons or 14 percent? So we need to know what theongoing death rate is vs total resolved cases to know for sure what the total lethality is.
ya GOTTA know what the TOTAL community case load is before making any pronouncements.
We have worldwide, less than 100,000 cases we know about. If in total, worldwide there are only 200,000 cases the stats are MUCH different than if worldwide cases are 1,000,000-and ONLY 100,000 have been sick enough to hit the system.
corona virus/COVID is a small time street punk compared to influenza when looked at in this perspective
We can’t trust the China figures and the most vulnerable are dying off early so the initial mortality rates from the numbers available outside of China seem initially very high when compared to the number of “completed or resolved cases”. That number will drop as more people with the disease recover than those who die. We don’t have enough “freedom of the press” numbers yet derived from numbers of sick outside of China but the initial mortality rates as compared to the total of “completed or resolved cases” is very sobering. The mortality rates will drop as more of the resolved cases reflect the numbers of persons who recover.
The numbers vary between 6.6 and 33 present depending on the metrics and sample sizes. Throw in China’s numbers of official “resolved” cases and the mortality rate is still 6.6 percent world wide. In Iran on the other hand it appears to be sickening much of their parliament and has taken a number of them completely out early. That suggests a high lethality.
They need to understand that the virus is not a hoax but they are right about the Democrats trying to politicize this virus. They need to take precautions.
Change it to Free Corona!!!
See we can all play games with numbers. But what good does that do for anyone? So why is the mortality rate higher in other countries, that then skew the numbers on a worldwide examination?
You might find some useful information at the WHO site.
You might want to move to Africa as they seem to be the least affected continent. South America seems to also be a less infected region. What do both of these areas have in common? Warmer weather. Hmm, an indication that warmer weather will most likely slow down the virus in the Northern Hemisphere, and then turn its attention to the Southern Hemisphere when it turns colder?
Determining lethailty is only as accurate as the numbers provided. If people have extremely healthy immune systems they may not even be aware they have the corona virus, and thus not seek out medical attention. That would definitely cause they lethality rate to become skewed, wouldn't you agree? My point is that we cannot be certain of the real mortality rate because we do not know exactly how accurate the numbers really are. There is no reason to be in a panic over the coronavirus, because in real terms many more people will die of the flu then this coronavirus. At least at this point in time.
“the Coronavirus is far deadlier...”
To Wuhan, China and Seattle Washington, it seems.
You think people haven’t noticed??
“many more people will die of the flu then this coronavirus.” I don’t see how these can die of the flu and then die of the corona virus, but perhaps you have more data? Clearly, more have died from flu than from this corona virus, but I cannot fathom how some who die of the flu can then die of corona virus ... we are arguing a silly point, agree?
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