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Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 8
3/2/2020

Posted on 03/02/2020 12:52:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of Live Thread from No 7.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820821/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: butbutflu; chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dooom; flu; globaldoom; livethread; sarscov2
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To: LilFarmer

Re: 574 - From the article at the link (and what you also posted:

“He said he suspects the capability of long-distance transmission with COVID-19 will be connected to source strength, or how symptomatic a person is.”


661 posted on 03/03/2020 3:37:37 AM PST by Fury
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To: 21twelve
...tiny particles that can float in the air (9 hours iirc) and travel hundreds of feet.

Source please for that claim

662 posted on 03/03/2020 3:41:11 AM PST by Fury
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To: 21twelve

I have a colleague who was in Hong Kong during SARS. She says the women there are sewing masks now. Apparently according to her friends there the government is only giving out 2 masks per week.

So while we here think they have all the masks...they don’t. They get 2 per week.

There are patterns available online how to make a mask. Once you understand it is about reducing the viral load you will recognize the limitations of whatever PPE you have.

A properly fitting surgical mask has the ability to reduce the viral load by 80%. A n-95 mask is shown to only reduce the load 90-95%. 10% difference.


663 posted on 03/03/2020 3:41:43 AM PST by EBH (DNC=Party NON GRATA)
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To: sockmonkey

All over the mall. And on a Saturday. SMH.


664 posted on 03/03/2020 3:47:51 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: blueplum

heil hitler


665 posted on 03/03/2020 3:50:57 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RaceBannon

realtime corona virus updates
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

https://kungflu.net/

Corona Virus - COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2: LIVE stats and graphs
https://covid2019.azurewebsites.net/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

This document shows how COVID-19 attracts to cell receptors of those with more ACE2 receptors
https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/early/2020/01/23/JVI.00127-20.full.pdf

Possibility that HIV virus is in Corona virus, intentional, man made
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228451610868830209.html

China Coronavirus: Tough Realities & Possibility of Global Pandemic—Epidemic Reporter Laurie Garrett
https://youtu.be/Jcthdee6CXs

https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/general-chis-nasty-wuhan-soup-a-recipe-for-biowar/
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar

Chinese general’s speech on the need for land to expand greater china and to do it they must kill Americans and Canadians
https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-vice-chairman-of-chinas-military.html

China has posited that the high rate of mortality in Wuhan was prior exposure to SARS. I’m not sure if Italy was involved with the SARS, but they’re a good test of that Chinese claim.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300344?via%3Dihub


666 posted on 03/03/2020 3:52:09 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: cgbg

NBA - no more high fiving fans or signing autographs.


667 posted on 03/03/2020 3:55:37 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: janetjanet998

https://www.rivm.nl/nieuws/actuele-informatie-over-coronavirus


668 posted on 03/03/2020 3:56:18 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: datura

The nursing home - It has been common sense for decades to at least put on a pair of gloves. Some didn’t even do that. That has zero to do with them saying they couldn’t wear PPE because CDC hasn’t declared it a pandemic. Senseless.


669 posted on 03/03/2020 4:00:51 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: miserare

Yep, I’ve been looking at Russia, too. Of course, they must have cases. They are nothing but liars. They took a look at China and Italy and don’t want flights to stop. They don’t care about peoples’ lives. It’s all about the money.


670 posted on 03/03/2020 4:03:52 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Fury
Note that this is for the "typical" flu virus. But I'm guessing at this stage of the game, a virus is a virus. (Obviously that is not true - the typical flu virus is viable something like 24 hours on a surface. The SARS virus is something like 48 hours. Some reports say Covid-19 is 5 days!) Anyway - the link and some excerpts (I see that I am off a little bit.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4147198/ "Lindsley et al. [13] found that a 4-μm particle takes 33 min to settle 1 m in still air, and a 1-μm particle takes 8 h; in addition, room air mixing and turbulence can keep these particles airborne even longer.... Experimental studies have demonstrated that the influenza virus can remain infectious in small particle aerosols and can transit across rooms... The aerosol fraction that is <4 μm (the “respirable fraction”) is of particular concern because it can remain airborne for an extended time and disperse throughout a room occupied by a patient with influenza....
671 posted on 03/03/2020 4:08:54 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve; Fury

Dogone it. I must be doing something wrong with some of these articles and links. This is the second time my paragraphs show in the preview, but not in the final product.


672 posted on 03/03/2020 4:12:00 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: sockmonkey

HLN reporting just now the San Antonio mayor told Lackland to keep the folks longer to test more. They were supposed to be let out yesterday. A judge over ruled the mayor so they may get out today.

Excuse me, but if they were around the mall woman, then they need to restart the clock and stay another 14 days. And we all know it isn’t if they were around her because we know they were. In the game room, watching tv, zumba classes and that ridiculous meal buffet with community serving spoons.


673 posted on 03/03/2020 4:13:19 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: sockmonkey; Thud

>>>US Judge for the Western District of Texas, Xavier Rodriguez, (Republican appointed by George Bush in 2003) has ruled against the City of San Antonio/ Bexar County to extend the quarantine of the Coronavirus evacuees to 28 days, and to not release evacuees with a pending third test.

The Judge said that San Antonio could not force _the Feds_ to extend it to 28-days.

_San Antonio_ could extend the quarantine on the evacuees after the Feds release them on it’s own dime and public resources.

Federalism you know.

And the CDC would rather a lot of _other people_ die than admit they are wrong on 14-day quarantine


674 posted on 03/03/2020 4:18:20 AM PST by Dark Wing (terrorism, disease, public health)
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To: tcrlaf

Awful. At first they said they had no idea.


675 posted on 03/03/2020 4:20:48 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: EBH

I agree on doing whatever one can do to reduce the load. But be careful - the N95 mask is rated to 0.3 microns. When an infected person breathes or coughs, about 46% of the particles is larger than 0.4 microns. (I think my previous post has that article)

So the N95 mask probably is only reducing the load by 50% or so. Better than nothing. And perhaps if one can even reduce the load by 50% that is enough to help a lot.

The other part is that the mask keeps one from touching their face.

I was out today without a mask (Seattle area). Walking down the aisle and some guy coughed without covering his mouth. Right near the bag of potato chips I was going to grab! (I got another brand!)

I would have felt a bit better with a mask on!


676 posted on 03/03/2020 4:21:53 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Tell the insurance companies to take their problem to China.


677 posted on 03/03/2020 4:23:36 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Grampa Dave

Right. The flu strain in that place could do the same thing. Though this corona virus appears to spread easier and stay hidden longer which makes me wonder if it is a chinese weapon or at least a research virus that got out unplanned.


678 posted on 03/03/2020 4:24:22 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: 21twelve
I was out today without a mask (Seattle area). Walking down the aisle and some guy coughed without covering his mouth. Right near the bag of potato chips I was going to grab! (I got another brand!)

Some people are not well-versed in courtesy.

679 posted on 03/03/2020 4:33:08 AM PST by Fury
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To: ETCM

Guarantee the ladies wadded up the sheets against their chests inches below their mouths, noses and eyes and carried them back in to hand to the laundry staff who also gathered the sheets to their chest area right under their faces. Then there’s the question if the washing machines and dryers will kill the virus. It’s been said regular washing won’t do it.


680 posted on 03/03/2020 4:36:38 AM PST by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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