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Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 8
3/2/2020

Posted on 03/02/2020 12:52:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of Live Thread from No 7.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820821/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: butbutflu; chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dooom; flu; globaldoom; livethread; sarscov2
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To: janetjanet998

“Of those, 7 were “imported from Italy,” according to local officials”

That’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.


461 posted on 03/02/2020 7:39:21 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LilFarmer

CGTN
@CGTNOfficial
· 1m
E #China’s Zhejiang Province confirmed 7 new imported #coronavirus cases from Italy.

Info on the patients:
– returned from Italy
– worked at the same restaurant
– close contacts of the first patient returning from Italy to Zhejiang
– no travel history to #Wuhan


462 posted on 03/02/2020 7:40:56 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; blam; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; LilFarmer; ...
Sioux City Diocese says coronavirus concerns could affect services (Iowa, 3/2/20)

As coronavirus spreads, infectious disease specialists counsel simple protection measures (Pennsylvania, 3/1/20)

463 posted on 03/02/2020 7:41:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Gritty

“Wait until this spreads like wildfire through the West Coast homeless camps.”

Hannity had a guy on tonight who’s from the Seattle area. He and Hannity brought up the same thing.

Scary because it would be really hard to try to contain these people and/or treat them.


464 posted on 03/02/2020 7:42:03 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: ETCM; Vermont Lt
Unfortunately, there are people going in every direction

Agreed. Where I live, I don't see any shortages. That certainly is a product of how close confirmed cases are to an area. I agree with the LT - the economic repercussions of this are going to be substantial. I believe China's position as an economic superpower will be under strain as businesses consider the lost revenue when parts, sub-assemblies, etc that are made in China are delayed due to the prolonged Chinese COVID-19 recovery.

We have been quietly purchasing more of supplies, which we normally do in the Spring anyways. I always go in after work, which is at night and there are few people in the stores.

465 posted on 03/02/2020 7:42:14 PM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
I don't agree with some who write that containment is a fool's errand.

It is partial containment that is the fool's errand.

Once you lose track of a substantial number of cases in the wild, then containment is a public relations activity and not real containment.
466 posted on 03/02/2020 7:43:22 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: 21twelve
The only actual N95 mask in that list of images is the 3M brand

One thing I see on Amazon is masks that state they are N95, but I am not so sure. The write-up for the mask description is in poorly constructed sentences that suggest the use of Google Translate, etc.

467 posted on 03/02/2020 7:44:21 PM PST by Fury
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To: RaceBannon

Prices on the good N95 with cooling device are way up.


468 posted on 03/02/2020 7:44:48 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: janetjanet998

S. KOREA

600 additional cases have been confirmed, total 4812, 34 discharged, 28 deceased

https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030


469 posted on 03/02/2020 7:44:53 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: BenLurkin

“How many people have caught this virus and never even knew they had it because they died right away?”

There, fixed.


470 posted on 03/02/2020 7:45:34 PM PST by griffin
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To: Vermont Lt

Well, maybe Laz. But not us.


471 posted on 03/02/2020 7:46:39 PM PST by griffin
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To: Fury

I factually know almost nothing directly. I do filter a lot of news. I have done it professionally for a long time. no system is perfect but I can usually find something worth actually reading towards my ends vs. skip skip skip. I make mistakes.

it is crazy contagious whether aerosolized or not. not holding my breath for the cdc to chime in here. the protein spike really is a devious piece of art in terms of facilitating infection with a relatively small viral exposure. hope we can agree it is very contagious regardless of aerosolization.

the ‘dont wear a mask’ thing is quite orwellian. we dont have enough masks so to make you feel better about not having one - they won’t help anyway. obv. having everyone in a mask would be ideal. asymptomatic carriers would spread a lot less. oh well.

not sure what fema is about. they did such a good job in katrina, looking fwd to them here (not).

we won’t get good info from the CDC in a timely fashion. they are reactive by nature and their priority isn’t giving us the best info to protect our health, individually. we have no choice but to dare to read 3rd party reports (often foreign case reports) to try to sort out what might be going on.

has a govt. md talked about possible annual epidemics yet? does that mean we shouldn’t? credible virologists say they don’t see why there shouldn’t be annual element here. this is a terribly concerning point beyond the current crisis. it is almost unthinkable in the implications.

a lot of talk about vaccine, but I think some of it is just give the public something to grab on to in a situation where by definition you feel completely helpless. hopefully we do get some meds that control the virus’ ability to replicate at not too high a cost to our bodies.


472 posted on 03/02/2020 7:50:58 PM PST by ArfDog123ABC
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To: bgill
“After the woman was released, she visited North Star Mall, where she browsed stores and ate at the food court”

She could be responsible for the deaths of people.

How utterly selfish.

473 posted on 03/02/2020 7:51:59 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mariner

everything is a narrative. soon they will have NO domestic cases and all cases will be imports.


474 posted on 03/02/2020 7:52:18 PM PST by ArfDog123ABC
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To: Mariner

Countries that feel like they are “going down”, won’t go down alone.

It’s stupid. But war games are like that.


475 posted on 03/02/2020 7:52:27 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ArfDog123ABC
even if you are in 100 degree weather area, you are probably in 70s most of your day no matter where you go. parking lots are the major exception....

That is exactly my point. People hanging hopes on the arrival of warm weather to extinguish the virus are chasing a false hope. Modern societies don't run around half naked in high heat and humidity. They seek refuge in exactly the right environment to keep the virus viable.

476 posted on 03/02/2020 7:52:40 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: cgbg

but the public relations is a major part of the reason for partial containment.


477 posted on 03/02/2020 7:53:41 PM PST by ArfDog123ABC
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To: LilFarmer

South Korea has more than doubled since Friday. Italy has more than tripled. Iran has almost quadrupled. The United States has increased by 75%. Japan has increased 20%.

According to Johns Hopkins CSSE:

2/28/20 11:23 am:
South Korea - 2337
Italy - 655
Iran - 388
United States - 60
Japan - 228

3/2/20 10:33 pm:
South Korea - 4812
Italy - 2036
Iran - 1501
United States - 105
Japan - 274

On the other hand, Japan


478 posted on 03/02/2020 7:54:40 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: metmom

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479 posted on 03/02/2020 7:54:44 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: cgbg

Re: 458 - No, it was a good article for Zero Hedge. Their stuff needs to be closely scrutinized anyways. I’m not sure we will see 2 million new cases per day but we shall see.


480 posted on 03/02/2020 7:56:23 PM PST by Fury
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