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'Am I going to jail?' Shocking moment a SIX-YEAR-OLD girl is committed to a mental health facility without her parents' permission where she was sedated and kept from her mom for TWO DAYS because her school said she was 'out of control'
Daily Mail UK ^ | Feb. 14, 2020 | Hannah Skellern For Dailymail.com

Posted on 02/14/2020 5:04:42 PM PST by Morgana

Police bodycam footage has emerged of the moment a six-year-old girl was escorted from her elementary school in Florida by a group of cops before being committed to a mental health facility without her parents' permission because she had a 'tantrum'.

On February 4, six-year-old Nadia Falk was taken to a mental health facility without her mother's permission after staff at Love Grove Elementary School called social workers claiming the girl, who has ADHD and a personality disorder, was throwing things and harming staff.

Nadia was taken to a mental health facility where she was sedated and held for 48 hours without seeing her mother, Martina.

Now, Martina is speaking out about the horrifying ordeal and questions over why the child was treated so harshly are being asked.

In Florida, children may be removed from school, transported to a psychiatric facility and held for up to 72 hours without parental consent under The Baker Law if there is reason to believe they have a mental illness and they are unable or unwilling to accept voluntary treatment.

The law makes no differentiation between children and adults.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: 5150; arth; florida; floridawoman; nervoushospital; sixyearold
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To: Yogafist

I taught school for more than twenty years. The kids (and their parents) have changed. The kid is always right. In my last decade teaching, two very young kids (under ten) broke the legs of teachers. In another incident five sixth grade students gang raped a special ed girl in the parking lot and returned to school the next day......strutting. I was threatened and stood up to another kid who went next door and beat up a teacher....who quit the next day. I don’t know what happened in this case, but I’d wait to hear more before casting judgment.


61 posted on 02/14/2020 8:30:16 PM PST by Whatever Works
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To: Whatever Works

Yep, most of my long term friends are teachers, I’ve heard the horror stories. One has a student who identifies as a female cat, and he has to accommodate that person.


62 posted on 02/14/2020 9:01:34 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: MrEdd

Did this “tantrum” perhaps include assault and destruction of property, and have the parents not taken care of that in the past?
Ding ding ding...I’m going with your answer! And if this is the other side, the physical restraint required by the staff to stop the student from harming others or continuing to destroy property would have been deemed excessive by someone and the school officials and district would be in legal hot water.


63 posted on 02/14/2020 9:37:24 PM PST by ebersole
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To: Morgana

These indoctrination centers taking charge


64 posted on 02/15/2020 2:54:33 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nick dip .com)
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To: Morgana
"the girl, who has ADHD and a personality disorder, was throwing things and harming staff"

When as child is out of control, and potentially harming others, she cannot be allowed to remain in a situation where that continues. You cannot blame the authorities for taking action to prevent harm to others. It may, indeed, have been necessary to sedate the child. Anyone who harms others needs to be controlled.

65 posted on 02/15/2020 6:30:48 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: the_daug

How did he euthanize the cat?


66 posted on 02/15/2020 6:31:54 AM PST by kalee
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To: Morgana

The state has gotten out of control on so many levels.


67 posted on 02/15/2020 6:59:19 AM PST by Crucial
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yes it can. A family member and I utilized it to protect another family member who was in severe crisis mode. Then, I flew down with yet another family member and brought him home.

It can be a real Godsend for some, but it can sure be misused. And some of those facilities are very abusive toward the clients. I witnessed that first hand.


68 posted on 02/15/2020 7:38:30 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: upchuck

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69 posted on 02/15/2020 7:38:44 AM PST by upchuck (Mayor Pete is not running to win. He's running to mainstream homosexuality. ~ Cowboy Bob)
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To: Daffynition

My oldest son has a learning disability due to him being 12# at birth and I was in labor too long (it was Christmas eve and no one wanted to deal with it). He was born 12/26. Oxygen deprivation caused learning disability which we didn’t find out about disability until he was 5. Had him professionally tested due to complaints at daycare of him acting up, etc.

He had ADHD, oppositional defiance disorder as well as IQ of 69.

Anyways back then (39 years ago) they put him on Ritalin. It would work for a while at school but then wear off and he would get out of control. They hired another worker to walk him outside of the school to get him calmed down. Sometimes I would have to go get him. I worked with a behavior specialist as when he would act out- hit himself, throw things, I would have to sit on him for 10 min or so until he calmed down. He was in special ed classes all the way until he graduated from high school. Long story, many years of working with specialists and getting him the help needed, nearly destroyed our marriage and family. But we did it. He is doing well for the most part now. I gave him to the Lord throughout the years is the only way we all survived. I did eventually take him off Ritalin as he was like a zombie when on it.

This girl has obvious issues and hope she gets the help needed.


70 posted on 02/15/2020 8:26:07 AM PST by Engedi (ui)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...the girl, who has ADHD and a personality disorder, was throwing things and harming staff.
Irrespective of they may be or may not be, schools are not daycare facilities.

71 posted on 02/15/2020 8:36:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Engedi

I agree, with your hope that this *family* gets help.

After 33 years of teaching, I have always thought that having a special needs child is as challenging as having a child who is truly talented or has a high IQ.

These special cases need *helicopter* parenting.

God Bless you and what you do for your son and family.


72 posted on 02/15/2020 9:26:07 AM PST by Daffynition (*Mega Dittoes and Mega Prayers* & :))
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I am surely watching the total collapse of civilization.


73 posted on 02/15/2020 9:31:37 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Captain Peter Blood

And people wonder how we get ‘the Florida Man’ syndrome...


74 posted on 02/15/2020 11:37:28 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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To: Morgana
Nadia was diagnosed with ADHD in 2017 and is waiting for test results to determine whether she has autism. Nadia is on medication for mental health issues and is in a special needs class”

When I was in high school, our senior year we had community days on Wednesdays, and my group was Partners in PE, where we went out to elementary schools around the area and helped the special needs class. Supposed to be just PE, but my school was small and only had a single class, so we just stayed with them the whole time. If this chick was already in a special needs class, then they should already know her issues, and be prepared to deal with them. If they're good enough to attend regular classes, usually a special needs attendent will take them there/back, and sometimes even stay through the class, depending on the kid. If her issues were known to be so bad they had to arrest her for two days, it seems they should have already moved her to a higher-level special needs class that could handle her, and she definitely wouldn't be attending any regular classes.

My guess would be that they either had a new teacher or a sub in the special needs class that had little or no training on special needs. Or, they weren't following usual protocol and let her out on her own when they weren't supposed to.
75 posted on 02/15/2020 8:29:26 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: kingu
More than a few times during her pre-teen years, she begged me to just spank her rather than just explaining everything calmly and rationally. She felt (and I somewhat agree) that it was probably crueler for all that calm reaction rather than a quick swat to the southbound side of the northbound child.

I'm gonna have to agree with her. When I was a kid/teen, the worst punishments were when Dad came up and sat you on the bed and talked and talked and talked. Somehow had a rational one-sided conversation over the same three sentences for ten-plus minutes. How.. Luckily, my kid's not even talking yet, so I still have some time to figure out how he did it!
76 posted on 02/15/2020 8:37:44 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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77 posted on 02/24/2020 5:39:36 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Waverunner
Excellent advice, thank you for a level headed post.
78 posted on 02/24/2020 5:46:35 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: ladyjane

Ridiculous attitude.


79 posted on 02/24/2020 5:48:25 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: metmom

Some of the comments on this thread are terrible.

This 6yo girl was in a special needs class.

Yes, the child should’ve been removed from class, if she was throwing a tantrum.

But, sedating her and holding her for 2 days at a mental health facility was an over-the-top reaction.


80 posted on 02/24/2020 11:43:32 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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