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Yes, Russia Once Had Its Own Version of the SR-71 Blackbird
The National Interest ^ | 7 Feb 2020 | Sebastien Roblin

Posted on 02/08/2020 6:51:49 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Yes, Russia Once Had Its Own Version of the SR-71 Blackbird How did it end?

...Still, brilliant Soviet engineer Pavel Tsybin came close to developing a “Soviet Blackbird”—though it, in fact, predated the A-12/Blackbird by several years and was originally conceived as a nuclear bomber.

By 1957, OKB-256 had built an NM-1 three-quarter-scale demonstrator equipped with two Mikulin AM-5 turbojets instead. After multiple delays, the subsonic test model made the first of 32 test flights on April 7, 1959. These revealed the airframe’s unstable takeoff handling and flight characteristics—meaning the jet needed to be re-engineered.

Supposedly, three or five RSR-020s airframes were completed at the No.99 factory at Ulan-Ude, Siberia, awaiting only fitting of their engines. However, the project was axed on October 1960 and the airframes eventually scrapped

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aviation; dreamon; russia; sr71
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1 posted on 02/08/2020 6:51:49 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Good band named SR-71 in the ‘90s.

I thought it was a submarine for some reason.

Must have been thinking of lunch :)


2 posted on 02/08/2020 6:57:29 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No, they didn’t. The article negates its own title.


3 posted on 02/08/2020 7:00:21 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So, after reading the whole article, the headline ought to be more along the lines of :

“No, the USSR did not really have a “Blackbird-like” aircraft.”

Oh, well, so much for that.


4 posted on 02/08/2020 7:00:36 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Pictures or it never happened.


5 posted on 02/08/2020 7:02:59 AM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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To: dp0622

“Must have been thinking of lunch :)”

I’m always thinking of lunch, or dinner, or breakfast...

Most of my clan have the ultimate fear of dying hungry.
The family’s favorite way to avoid the fear is to continually snack.

Yes, then I need to do pence on the bicycle, for hours, but not too much eating while riding.


6 posted on 02/08/2020 7:03:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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A-12 ARCHANGEL CIA PROJECT OXCART
7 posted on 02/08/2020 7:03:59 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I read it and had thoughts like “I could have developed a cure for cancer, but...didn’t!”

The one that stuck in my brain was “If frogs had wings, they wouldn’t whomp their ass every time they jumped.”

Point is, they had good scientists in the Soviet Union, but good scientists aren’t good enough to build a SR-71. You need the will and determination to do it, both requiring an overarching framework of a government/economy substructure to make it happen.

They didn’t.


8 posted on 02/08/2020 7:05:10 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: hopespringseternal
No, they didn’t. The article negates its own title.

Right. Anyone can conceive of an idea. That is nothing like actually implementing it.

9 posted on 02/08/2020 7:07:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Every election, more or less, is an advance auction of stolen goods. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You really do the bike for that long?

Mine’s used to put wet towels on to dry :)

Your posts are always optimistic and/or positive and/or cheery.

It SICKENS ME!!

Be Miserable like the rest of us!! :)

Just kidding. Always look forward to your posts :)


10 posted on 02/08/2020 7:08:17 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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To: null and void

Pictures or it never happened.

How about a wiki page with a sketch and specs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsybin_RSR


11 posted on 02/08/2020 7:09:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: rlmorel

There is nothing impossible is Sr-71 the Soviets couldn’t make at the time. The article correctly points at the fact that the system was considered absolete with the appearance of ICBMs and space reconnaissence.


12 posted on 02/08/2020 7:12:11 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Hot Tabasco

A-12 ARCHANGEL CIA PROJECT OXCART

That is a great read!

Also, there is a full book on the same subject, available on pdf.


13 posted on 02/08/2020 7:12:19 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: dp0622

IIRC there was a documentary about this plane, they actually built a nuclear powered airplane but the crews couldn’t stand the radiation and with shielding it wouldn’t fly.


14 posted on 02/08/2020 7:15:50 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A few yrs ago visited the Dayton Air Museum...the SR 71 up close is small, and is like heavy duty paper mache...I found it weird and kinda liked not knowing that before.


15 posted on 02/08/2020 7:20:07 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Vote for President Trump in 2020 or end up equally miserable, no rights, and eating zoo animals)
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To: wastoute

how about a nuclear powered unmanned drone, with heat rays that could stay over a target literally for weeks?


16 posted on 02/08/2020 7:21:04 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: wastoute

Wow. That’s actually interesting.

What’s the advantage of a nuclear powered airplane?

It’s not like subs where it’s moving for weeks and months at a time.


17 posted on 02/08/2020 7:25:13 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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You really do the bike for that long?

Yes, but I can only take the rollers or a spin bike for a max of two hours, most days it is one hour. In the street, I would go all day.

After that evil car ran me down & 20 days hospital...
The street was frighting to me.
Last year I quit riding in the street.

BUT! Another Freeper posted rowing videos with subliminal messages to purchase one, and I did.
It feels so good to get off the bike.
Then have a full(?) seat on the rower, to sit on for 5k.

Then shower and dinner!

Maybe a nice drumstick on a string at a distance in front would bring up my numbers?


18 posted on 02/08/2020 7:29:40 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: dp0622

The advantage would be it could stay aloft for extended periods, and yes an unmanned drone might answer, just enough shielding to protect the electronics. I’m not in aviation. If it’s practical we probably have one but it’s “secret”.


19 posted on 02/08/2020 7:32:55 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: NorseViking

I never said it was impossible for them. After all, they did build deployable nuclear weapons.

Their flaw is that they considered it obsolete. Which could not have been further from the truth.

So, given the shortcomings of their government and decision making process (which was decidedly leftist in nature, and that isn’t a compliment) it was of course, wrong.

So they never made one.

We got decades of vital and important use out of those we built.


20 posted on 02/08/2020 7:33:36 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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