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The Benefits of Air Pollution Control: Where's the Beef?
American Council on Science and Health ^ | 01/23/20 | Fred Lipfort and Chuck Dinerstein

Posted on 02/01/2020 8:37:44 PM PST by Pining_4_TX

It’s been 50 years since cleaning up the air in the United States began in earnest. Skies are much clearer now than in the mid-20th century. Leaded gasoline is gone, power plants have been abandoning coal and sulfur dioxide has dropped by 91%. Despite these growing improvements, why have epidemiologists been unable to show the demonstrable public health benefits that their computer models predict?

(Excerpt) Read more at acsh.org ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: health; pollution; regulation
“Remember that all models are wrong; the practical question is how wrong do they have to be to not be useful.” - George Box
1 posted on 02/01/2020 8:37:44 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Anyone who spends any time outdoors knows the advances in air quality have been significant over the last 50 years.

And if epidemiological studies do not measure the right stuff, few care. Nobody, and I mean nobody wants to go back.


2 posted on 02/01/2020 8:47:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I want my 100 octane leaded fuel back!


3 posted on 02/01/2020 8:49:33 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Pining_4_TX

How much value do we get from the EPA and their ever-more-restrictive regulations?

When formed, they were needed. For much of what they do now, are they?


4 posted on 02/01/2020 8:53:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mariner

Agreed. But I believe it’s time to acknowledge that we have passed the point of diminishing returns with increasingly stringent regulations.


5 posted on 02/01/2020 9:06:43 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Pining_4_TX

fine on cleaned up air.

but the remaining bureaucrapppy and extra taxes, fees...
smog checks on cars with only 1200 miles?
smog checks on cars that have passed many times before and only get driven 2000 miles a year?
tons of expensive bureaucraps for us taxpayers to support, too?

a little rationality would sure help garner some support


6 posted on 02/01/2020 9:15:26 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: ChildOfThe60s
...we have passed the point of diminishing returns with increasingly stringent regulations.

Bingo!

7 posted on 02/01/2020 9:24:48 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrats stand for crime, corruption and chaos -Trump http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Check lead levels. Since leaded gasoline has been outlawed levels have gone back down .


8 posted on 02/01/2020 10:41:11 PM PST by Nateman
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To: Pining_4_TX
This scare tactic is approaching the end of it's cycle just like the ozone hole and acid rain did. Global warming religion, Gaia or mother earth religion, is a longer term pandemic designed to make its place. E-bola fizzled now we have a new “killer virus”? Do you feel manipulated to profit someone else?
9 posted on 02/02/2020 12:33:34 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: GOPJ

Europe has followed the U.S. example.


10 posted on 02/02/2020 1:46:54 AM PST by Does so (...Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election...)
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To: Pining_4_TX
“Remember that all models are wrong; the practical question is how wrong do they have to be to not be useful.” - George Box"

That's not the full quote usually ascribed to Box. The version I've used is: “Remember that all models are wrong, though SOME are useful; the practical question is how wrong do they have to be to not be useful.”

To me, the most important first step in evaluating the output of a model involves determining how good it must be to be useful, not how bad it must be to be useless. The former is much more difficult since it involves looking at known parameters that are not included in the model. The output of a model must NEVER be used for important decisions if this step is not taken.

11 posted on 02/02/2020 5:51:07 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: Mariner

Yep. Those of us who saw —and tried to breathe in— the Los Angeles basin in the late 1960’s can attest. As a kid, family went to visit friends in Whittier. We kids headed to park/playground. Usual horsing around for 20 minutes led to stinging throat, eyes, and a ripping headache for all four of us. Quite different today. Current hysteria/activism at over extremely fine particulate matter is, however, over the top, and the returns on the cost of the bureaucrats’ efforts are nil.


12 posted on 02/02/2020 7:29:12 AM PST by drwoof
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To: mountainlion

You sound like the author of the book, The Rational Optimist. It’s an interesting book.


13 posted on 02/02/2020 3:06:51 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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